The Greatest Black Irish: Mohammed Ali Traces his Roots to Ireland
There are many Irish of African background and there are many Africans and African Americans of Irish background. The Honourable Noble Ali Drew taught us that true Irish people could be considered a nation that was originally black and aboriginal, since that was indeed their true history, Asiatic-Africans of the European Continent.
There are many linkages, commonalites and joint heritage connecting the Irish people to the Black nation. Though many racists might chaff in their ignorance and damaged mentality, the history that connects Africa and Ireland flows like a river, from the central sahara, through Espania, on to the Ireland, the bloodmarks and the cultural traits live on.
In the discovery of the new world, and the following colonial subjugation of the world’s native people, Black Africans at home, and those in the diaspora throughout Europe, especially Ireland, were betrayed, then killed and the remnants were sold into slavery in the west.
Until the late 19th century, Irish people (I mean the real Irish natives not the settlers) were considered as black Africans stragglers, and were treated no better than any black African by the blood thirsty slaves of the defunct Holy Roman Empire/Church, called the Franks and the English.
Due to a common reality both groups faced in early America, Blacks and Irish found an early solidarity that they appear to have lost today. Yet, in the early days of European olonizaton of the Americas, the Irish simply went back into the existing Black community, which was their original roots anyhow, and blended in back again with the Negros.
Hundreds of thousands of Black Irish did live and still live in the United States and Canada.
In the Islands of the Carribean, in the south of the United states, and sometimes in the agrcultural heartlands such as Kentucky, one finds this seamless blend of the Bantus, the Mandes, the Muurs, and the Irish, who once worked the plantations together, though sometimes in oppositon, yet, always manipulated and fleeced by the slaving Franks, and the Angeles..the so-called west European whites or WASPs.
Rastalivewire has brought stories and articles on the many aspects of Black, and Irish relationship.
We have this interesting story about Muhammad Ali, the Greatest boxer known to man, a radical Black African American nationalist, who started out his days as a member of the fiery Black Muslims, also known as the Nation of Islam led by Elijah Muhammad.
Indeed, Muhammad Ali is also a Black Irish.
Ali goes to Ireland:
Boxing legend Muhammad Ali made a sentimental journey to discover his Irish roots in the little town of Innis, where he met with distant relatives during celebrations at the local town hall and a nearby castle.
He made this trip following the uncovering of his roots which go way to Africa, and on to Ireland, in the streets of Ennis.
Thousands of excited Irish people lined the streets of Ennis, western Ireland, to cheer the motorcade carrying Ali as the three-time world heavyweight champion visited the home of his great-grandfather Abe Grady.
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Mayor Frankie Neylon presented Ali with a scroll as he proclaimed him Ennis’ first “freeman,” an honor conveying him special privileges in the County Clare town of 23,000. The mayor said the most valuable privilege would be free parking.
Free Black Woman of Kentucky (A Moorish Line of Descent):
Abe Grady settled in the U.S. state of Kentucky in the 1860s and married a free-born Black woman from the state of Kentucky. She might have been one of the descendants of the Moorish nation (so-called black Indians) of America or perhaps directly from Morocco. Moors were precluded from enslavement in slave holding America.
She might also have been the descendant of a freed African who had been previously enslaved in America. But the bottom line is that Mohammed Ali’s grandmother was living as a free citizen of the United States when she met and married immigrant Abe Grady.
One of their grandchildren, Odessa Lee Grady Clay, gave birth to Ali — then Cassius Clay — in 1942.
By 2002, genealogists had pinpointed Ali’s Irish links, but Ali was not interested initally. He never visited Ennis until now.
People traveled hundreds of miles (kilometers) from across Ireland to see Ali, among them veteran Irish boxers who sparred with Ali in New York training decades ago.
Ali was later driven through the town to Turnpike Road, where his great-grandfather lived before sailing for America. He met several representatives of the Grady clan, most of them O’Gradys — the O means “son of” in the native Irish tongue.
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http://www.thegrio.com/top-stories/muhammad-ali-traces-his-roots-to-ireland.php
Muhammad Ali was much respected by the Irish, for his wit, his intelligence, and for his marvellous style in boxing. He would have been outstanding in almost any career. Africa and Ireland can be proud of this great man. I wish the Irish could claim Nelson Mandela too, but he, I suppose, is pure African.
The WASPs (white Anglo-Saxon Protestants), had invaded, butchered, murdered, dispossessed and enserfed the Irish, who were a more ancient and cultured race than themselves, but they never beat us, even after centuries of trying. Irish fighters took back our land in the early 20th century. We knew the criminal nature of the ruling WASPs, their bogus posturing, and their de-based landlord religion. Of all races, the Irish were the most knowing and most deadly to the WASP’s pretences.
The Irish were needed as serfs in America, but their culture had to be suppressed, since they still had so much fight and knowledge left in them, this is why the treatment of the Irish in all the WASP territories was so terrible. Our brothers the Welsh, the Manx, the Cornish, and the Scots, though disposessed and overcome by the WASPs, usually allowed themselves to be accepted as an underclass to, and show respect to, the English elite. For this reason they had it much easier, and actually began to identify with the Anglo’s.
Africans were very likely trading and mixing with the Irish long before the Anglo-Saxons invaded “Celtic” Britain. Peace.
The real Irish in Ireland have always identified with the black struggle and any underdog. Thats why even till this day you’ll see murals of the black panthers in west Belfast. Sinn Fein have long been friends of Mandela and the anc. Its a shame Irish Americans are often racist.
OH MY god, how are you all so fucking retarded and stupid. The people living in Ireland and Scotland, although invaded at various times throughout history by MANY different peoples, have been living in that area for thousands and thousands of years. Stone age dwellings have been found 12,000 years old, and nobody from Africa was ‘trading & mixing’ in Ireland 12,000 fucking years ago.
Do you not realize that there is plenty of skeletal evidence, etc., that people in the U.K. were always white? Mohammed Ali has at least 50% white DNA any way.
The people in the United States didn’t treat Irish like shit because THEY WERE RACIALLY BLACK, they treated them like shit because the were illiterate dirt poor farmers pouring into the USA in the millions because of a potato famine caused by a ‘black potato plague’ and the Irish were considered inferior mentally. (they do have the lowest IQ’s in Europe, still to this day. and no shit please, I have Irish ancestors too). They were NOT WANTED in the United States at the time, as serfs or anything else.
All you idiots who read some old text, that you totally misinterpret – because you don’t understand how people spoke in a totally different manner back then – then say Irish people were Africa, is the most ridiculous shit I ever heard in my life. A few hundred years ago, anybody who wasn’t fair complected (such as an arab or a Mediterranean type) we called ‘black’. ‘Moorish’ people were not ‘black’ they were arab and white berbers from north Africa – Moroccans are white (and some mixed) the blacks in the far down South are NOT berbers who were the original inhabitants (yeah I used to live in Morocco, so don’t tell me)
I am originally from an area of the United States that was heavily and majority settled by Irish (and english, scot but mostly irish) and that is in TENNESSEE and believe me, the blacks and white irish did NOT blend back in together. They fucking hate each other.
You’re a fucking lunatic, and your resources are SHIT. Come over to Europe, go to Morocco, and learn something real, instead of living in a fucking fairy tale land.
Rebecca Black-Smith
You need to go back to the basics. Start with this article, “African Roots of Ireland” and you will start to appreciate advance history. Link: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/articles/african-roots-of-ireland/
By the way, did you know it was the Black Formorians who brought the science of iron smithing into Ireland? That is why they called every smith a black-smith, cause it was a profession first dominated by blacks.
Your name Black-Smith says something about your roots. Stop the self-hate.
Jahdey
Blacksmiths work primarily with wrought iron and steel. The “black” in “blacksmith” refers to the black fire scale, a layer of oxides that forms on the surface of the metal during heating. The word “smith” derives from an old word, “smite” (to hit). Thus, a blacksmith is a person who hits black metal.
This article is very misleading. His great grandfather was a white Irishman actually, that married an African American woman who was a free slave. And from his father side, his great great grandfather was of English and Italian descent, so Mohammad Ali has African, Irish, English and Italian ancestry. the surname Clay he got from his English side. But this article seems to make it so that somehow his great great grandfather was black Irish? Do the people he visited in Ireland who carry the surname Grady look black? Because his great grandfather came to America in the 19th century from that same town, and Ali went to Ireland to visit this town and he also met his distant relatives from the Grady family. so you’re saying somehow the Grady clan turned white within a hundred years?? damn, some of you people posting here are fucking stupid and delusional. You manage to turn it around like crazy… he has white ancestry, so what? Allot of Afro-Americans do. he even explained this in an interview from 70’s and why they are lighter skinned than Africans.
not great great grandfather but great grandfather*** his great grandfather was from Ireland, and he was actually white. he went there and met the grady family which are his distant relatives, and which are also white.. but somehow you manage to mix African immigrating to ireland into this, what has that anything to do with it? And the term black Irish is referred to a person with darker features, like a south european.
One of the oldest texts composed in Ireland is the Leabhar Gabhla, the Book of Invasions. It tells a semi-mythical history of the waves of people who settled in Ireland in earliest times. It says the first settlers to arrive in Ireland were a Small Dark people called the Fir Bolg, followed by a magical super-race called the Tuatha de Danaan (the people of the goddess Dana).
Are you debating me or are you debating the Leabhar Gabhla?
Apparently thats why Ali was a supreme athlete/ boxer, scientifically it’s been proven that mixed race folk have an edge physicaly over the rest of us mere mortals! His ability and ferocious self beliefe, especially leading up to the Foreman fight was astonishing and inspirational! What a man!
African americans has awhole come from certain african ethnic groups and most african americans who are lighter then many africans come from the africans who have the lighter skin anyway,so the recent europen dna many african americans have have nothing to do with whites because the african americans that do have european dna for most it’s low.There are african groups in africa that are all african in dna and have lighter skin too but they are the minority in africa and but they do exist.Africans come in all shapes and colors.
Keep in mind some african american all still all african in dna.
You are a retard, the Irish are the most educated and skilled in Europe today, they are wanted in Canada, Australia, Japan, China and various other countries for the skills and education. America was very much a WASP stronghold when the Irish arrived and they were treated extremely badly, with the same contempt shown to them by England. They were indeed wanted in the United States, they came off the boats, were given their American Citizenship and a uniform and gun and told go out and fight for your new country. In terms of IQ, you appear to have a very low one indeed, your use of language is appalling, its unnecessary to reduce your argument to aggressive foul language your point, if you had one, could be adequately articulated in the absence of such language, I guess giving the fact your point is narrow, hateful and stupid then such language would be necessary. In terms of African trade, well yes there certainly was for thousand of years with most of Europe. In fact African trade links were in the ancient world much more sophisticated than other traditionally white countries. Again the Moors were black, I suggest you stop living your fairy tale, and get over it. Then again being a White America this would be very difficult for you to handle. You were born believing you were superior to Blacks, your so called intelligence, mentality and personality was cultivated in a pro white, anti black environment, to you the blacks were nothing but slaves, which you tried to keep them as, to you they did not have a history worthy of a mention. Your white American roots are the most hated across the globe, your ignorance is entrenched in your false sense of superiority but all this is now crumbling, and you are bringing your thrash to Europe, please go home to that backwater Tennessee, do we really need your foul loud thrash here in Europe. In Ireland we laugh at you, your the thickest of all people and believe your own bull, its frightening and dangerous to say the least.
The Irish are ranked 10th in the world in terms of Educational attainment, in Europe only Finland exceeds, England, Scotland and Wales, our closest neighbours lag behind I suggest you check this out on Eurostats, Educational Achievements in Europe 2012. So regardless of your so called Irish ancestry that you assume gives you entitlement to talk rubbish, the facts speak very differently than you. ‘White Berbers’ are you totally stupid?
The original berbers are black. The people in North Africa today are descendant of INVADERS . White people are not indigenous to ANY part of Africa that’s why the skin cancer rate is so high you DUNCE. The only retard here is YOU.
warning metaphysical blac atacl spell shes callin saturn el/mooch baal baaphomet wwhen she says oh my god thats what they hanged pocahontas name to rebecca from the bble helllll no n kill this smell/spell lokk between yuo legs an spell it back wards you come from that you call idiot an stupid its easyy to type tha when you not in a muurish queens from here or morocc o in the east face sayin it names they call stupid idiot cagot blacks law 4th edition get outta the crack of the popes ass respect the divine law free white person does not mean caucasion race or aryan race or any race we muurs are all shades including yours the las red ruddy amazon turk one we raised self created look at her shape shifting sound like those tennesee kkk irish who hide the ality in the kloran they read irish are muurs you dont know your self like negro people right after slavery in america cause u an your went through same process as negro so you know even less accept you were recently semi accepted into the 1863 white race in 1950,gangs of ny was halfway right,you got to many children with us to be talking that shit especially your men who were not slave owners ,you and them were sold in tennesee as slaves ,,1863 ,thats how old how long the english bleac carrion been white bleac irish bleac dutch they just let the irish in 1950 on americn census as white in 13 14 amend ment which is not white only kkk wight whiggampore demoratic fake color of law white dont let them who got all captal names tell yu nothin thy a species that just dont know but they talk to deflect direct right an exact knowledge with ignorance chaos spells such as these being cast here today like she dont know shes no madame blavatsky you who call your self white only on census as such since 1950 with italians in america who are muur also ,, why do your irish wear fezs an we got people from morroco in the east right here in the west that says yu should cause you not from africa an you not white cause you got rubber skin ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why your face start to look like a old whitewall car tire when you get old your face is the original crack before cocaine , who da fuck you talking to ,,,your not a creator i have to respect with that fucked up frequency your rising in here on ,fire begats fire ,the men who run this site are from africa dumbass ,,,king melisius from spain queen scota from egypt are from that land before you an that story of being raped by the danes to get blue eyes danes were muurs also we got evidence from your carrion /cagot ilk,irish people was slavs in europe slaves in america n caribbean n mexico hiding in indentured servitude,ireland is muur than 600 years old yor peole ae not do the math now if you show that no one inhabited irelnd until 7000 years ago then your are rigt but dont take me the muur from my place in anciwent times an attempt to put you or yours in my place if you were not created yet as europeans of today at most 7000 yeas old ,,irish werent worth much at auction block but they were bought an sold ,irish was first red ruddy to get knowledge from muurs in europe an be dumbed down by carrion after they taught them what we taught the so called irish the dark hue muurs called black a muurs are the snakes st patrick got rid of in ireland an we didnt forget that or that we wasnt red redy pale bleac ,,,,,,st patrick did it an theres a holiday of him killing the muurs in ireland in america when i.s.l.a.m. the science was in ireland an religious inquisiition wars separated the muurs i n color until this day,the male religion of islam isnt until prophet mohammad ,you dont know sht bout europe with your deaducation,yeah we gonna tell yu the amazigh are not the original in haibitants of mauritania just recently changed to morroco the suisse/swiss berbers are,,,,,,,,,,,, check the nobility not the german subjects ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the queen from morroco in america here says you are wrong as does her family .you not from morroco in east they say people go to disney land but the dont see the people under the masks like u when you went to north akebulan ,,how long did you stand in the square in marrakesh an see pale rubber tire skin faces an nothin else ?????????? you will not deflect knowledge live an direct with chaos magic
they said shut up mary poppins you not from north africa an dont know what a berber is
@ Rebecca Smith
you are a jew and a black smith. Did you know that? You have a lot of cousins in Mauritania and in Senegal.Next time you go to Morocco, come to say hello.
Peace Sister
Mag Jahdey,
To echo with you about family names & professions: we can find among Sereres (ethnic group mostly living in Senegal today, but that had left heavy marks in Morocco and Mauritania) the family name Tine.I suspect this family name “Tine” came from the extration of tin(the metal) the ancestors of the beholders were doing in Ireland and the british Islands. Professeur Pathe Diagne in his works, indicates how Sereres and other south africains have occupated and named all the atlantic coast from Britain (Baratana / the Tana land of Supreme Ba & Ra) to Senegal.
Akasa
Sadi
You need to send in that article. You need to tell our story to our coming generation. We await…
One love
Jahdey