The Fomorians
There are many oblique references to the presence of Black people in ancient Ireland. Ancient Irish mythology refers to the original inhabitants of the island as being a giant, sea-faring people called the Fomorians (Fomors), which means “dark of the sea”. According to the ancient lore, they were a cushitic people from the African continent. Often depicted as demons, they defeated the first few incoming waves of invaders, but could not defeat the Firbolgs, who settled the land and lived side-by-side with the native Fomors.
Those myths may have a factual historical basis. It is proposed that the Formorians were a real people who were in all likelihood sailors from the African continent.
Two more invasions, the first led by the godly Tuatha de Danaan, and the second by the Celtic Milesians, took control of Ireland, mixing together with the Fomorians until they were no more.
There are credible sources for the African association with Ireland. The most likely of these is that they were Phoenicians and/or Egyptians. The Phoenicians were Canaanites, which came from the line of Ham. Ham is the mythological ancestor of the Black nation.
The Phoenicians were also well-known for their sailing skills, and are said to have traveled to the British Isles, which they called the “Tin Islands”. Perhaps, before Ireland was a Celtic domain, which it wasn’t until a few centuries BCE, the Phoenicians colonized it. It is noteworthy that the name Fomorians sounds a bit like Phoenicians.
There is also a legend that an Egyptian princess, Scota, left Egypt with some followers and journeyed to Ireland. Legend has it that Egyptians left many ancient tin mines all over Britain but especially Ireland which was their major source of the valuable metal.
Another idea is that they were Taureg Berbers. The Berber language is Hamitic, and the Berber people live in an area from which travel to Ireland would be easily accessible. The Berbers perhaps set sail from western Morocco, and settled on Ireland before the Celts, making it their new home.
Moorish Science Temple founder Drew Ali teaches that Ireland was once part of a Moorish empire, and that the Irish are a Moorish people. Perhaps there is a common root between the “moor” sound in Fomor and the word Moor?
Selkies and Half-Breeds
Another Irish legend tells of the Selkies, a sort-of “wereseal” that is a seal during day, but a human by nightfall. Sometimes, in an Irish family of fair-skinned, light-haired people, a child is born with dark hair eyes, and skin, and is called a Selkie.
The concept of the Selkies appears to make subliminal reference to the half-breed children that resulted from the extensive miscegenation that occurred between the Celts and the dark skinned original inhabitants that they had met upon their arrival in Ireland.
Many people of Irish descent have distant and recent African roots, and these features can still be seen in the people and in the culture. There are some Irish people with Afros (just like Andre the Giant a late continental European wrestler with afro-hair). In Southern Ireland, some people, referred to as “Black Irish”, are noted for their strikingly dark features, as opposed to the fair-skinned, light-haired north.
Although many Irish descendants are particularly pale, they do have pronounced Africoid facial features, as well as dark brown eyes, and dark brown hair that is sort-of kinky, especially in moist conditions. A sub race of the Irish called the Bronn are noticeably Mediterranean (read: African) in features especially their hair.
In addition to all of this, Celtic music is distinctly different from the rest of Europe, and easily comparable to African music.
Black, Viking and Irish
Unlike Scotland and England, Ireland was never colonized by the Romans. As a result, Ireland remained relatively isolated.
The Vikings established port cities like Dublin. The Viking texts left stories and descriptions of African soldiers captured in Ireland whom they called blaumen[blue-men].
Most Viking references to ”black” in Norse would have signified having black hair as opposed to skin color but blaumen meant black skinned. Most of these blaumen were captured soliders from Moorish Spain. It was observed that:
“A prominent Viking of the eleventh century was Thorhall, who was aboard the ship that carried the early Vikings to the shores of North America. Thorhall was “the huntsman in summer, and in winter the steward of Eric the Red. He was, it is said, a large man, and strong, black, and like a giant, silent, and foul-mouthed in his speech, and always egged on Eric to the worst; he was a bad Christian.””
“Another Viking, more notable than Thorhall, was Earl Thorfinn, “the most distinguished of all the earls in the Islands.” Thorfinn ruled over nine earldoms in Scotland and Ireland, and died at the age of seventy-five. His widow married the king of Scotland. Thorfinn was described as “one of the largest men in point of stature, and ugly, sharp featured, and somewhat tawny, and the most martial looking man… It has been related that he was the foremost of all his men.””
What about Scotland and Wales?
“Any comprehensive account of the African presence in early Europe should include England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Scandinavia. The history and legends of Scotland confirm the existence of “purely Black people.” We see one of them in the person of Kenneth the Niger. During the tenth century Kenneth the Niger ruled over three provinces in the Scottish Highlands.
The historical and literary traditions of Wales reflect similar beliefs. According to Gwyn Jones (perhaps the world’s leading authority on the subject), to the Welsh chroniclers, “The Danes coming in by way of England and the Norwegians by way of Ireland were pretty well all black: Black Gentiles, Black Norsemen, Black Host.””
Ogu Eji Ofo Annu
Sources:
Ancient And Modern Britons, by David Mac Ritchie
Nature Knows No Color-Line, by J.A. Rogers
seems like grace is the only person with any sense man originated in africa earliest evidence ethiopia but colour of skin is of no importance to anyone what is is that during life in different climates different attiudes and beliefs were formed and we must learn to appreciate each other and their beliefs as we all come frome one
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Ok Skeptic you seem to be going overboard. On one hand you have a black guy saying that black people are superior to white people, I do not agree with this person. Now you seem to be implying that white people are superior to black people.You have to bare in mind that alot of european scientific develomment owes itself to Islam and Africa was part of the Islamic Empire.
The word Algebra was named after a muslim scholar, Chemistry comes from the word Al-Chemie which is arabic. Skeptic I could go on and on. I have no idea wether the scholars were African or not, the problem sometimes in studying muslim history is that sometimes people are refered to as muslim scholars instead of African or Arab, as you know there were many African muslims with Arabic names and who could speak Arabic. In the middle ages the Islamic world was seen to be more advanced than the European world and alot of European scholars used to learn from muslim countries. One part of the Islamic world was Spain. I know that the person who lead the army into Spain was African also I know the army consisted of lots of Arabs and Africans. Basically when the muslims took over Spain they improved it, scholars would come over from Europe to study there and the descriptions of the city show that the muslims were more advanced.
The point im trying to make is this…you cannot talk about scientifc development in Europe without talking about Islam because there are alot of scientifc discoveries you would not have acheieved without getting it from the Islamic world. The other point im trying to make is this..everyone has their time of greatness. There was a time when the Islamic world (Africa included) was seen to be superior to Europe and there is a good chance that the renaissance would not have happened. So one of the reasons why European civilization is seen as being superior is partialy because everyone has their time in the sun. I mentioned Spain because this was one part of the Islamic world which had a huge African involvement. You also have to bare in mind that there were alot of people in Europe that could not read or write and Africans did. For example the visigoths conquered North Africa for a while but did not have a lasting effect on Christanity because they could not read or write.
Another point I need to make is this. You can critcise a people for not developing when Europeans have a tendency throughout history to invade other peoples country and destroy their civilisation. Im aware that African people have to be responsible for their development but dont criticise African people so harshly when Europeans have played a huge part in keeping Africans down. Dont tell me you have forgotten about what the Europeans have done in America, South America, Australia, India and even China.
Skeptic you are aware that Europeans invaded Africa with guns carved up the country enslaved whole communities. Skeptic the reason why im Catholic is because my ancestors were forcibly converted, before that they were muslim. If you go to some parts of the West Indies you will see people with African, Indian and Chinese blood because Europeans used to get slaves from these countries. Skeptic do you know any other race of people that have acted so aggressively to other races on the whole?
What about today, are you telling me you dont know how unfair the economic system is? Africa has more resources than Europe and there are alot of natural resources that are taken from Africa, but somehow Africa is poorer than Europe. Are you going to sit here and tell me that its because African people are stupid…. or is it that the economic system is unfair. You also need to bear in mind that Europeans are selling weapons to developed countries….somehow I dont think that helps.
Skeptic you need to undertand what im saying. I am not trying to say that Europeans are entirely to blame why Africa is the way it is, Africans have responsibility as well, but you cant sit here and criticse African people for not developing when Europeans have done alot to ruin Africa.
Let me make a sceneario. This is like you coming into my house beating me up, taking my stuff, smashing the place up and then coming back to my house and saying “Why is this place a dump”. I am just trying to illustrate a point.
Some good points.
One of the reasons that subsaharan Africa is is such bad shape, is that civilization is relatively new there. The turmoil is a feature of culture that is right at the edge of a dominant system. It happened to the Indians in North America. When the Horse was adopted by Sioux ( Lakota) they expanded and displaced other groups who did not adopt the horse. However when the Sioux contacted the US they were in turn destroyed. They put up a great fight, yet they were going to lose. The Iriquois federation was in part a reaction to contact with the French and English.
Take South Africa. The Dutch colonized and displaced peoples. The Zulu nation was formed at the edge of this genocide. In turn the Zulu tribe grew subjugated various disturbed tribes. But once the Regular troops of the Brirish army contacted the Zulus the Zulus were also doomed. Even though they fought very well.
That sort of turmoil always exists at the edge of a growing Empire or conquering civilization. The complexity of the one system requires that the less complex is going to be shattered.
Contrast the turmoil in Mexico with their warring Narco cartels, and the relative peace in the US.
sorry i have some errors on my post and i dont know why they are there
Ignore the first paragraph and ignore “Quote Skeptic”
Quote Skeptic
“The Vikings, as of 1000 years ago and before, had independently mastered shipbuilding and exploration, and they wrote their history and mythology in prose (with their own script).”
You are aware that Africans have actually travelled to America as well as the Vikings. Bear in mind Africa is alot further away from Europe.
Oh yeah the Vikings could only read or write runes. The reason why we know about their discoveries is because Christian scholars came after them and wrote it down. I should know im thinking of adopting Heathenism as my religon! Some of the phaorahes were black something tells me they knew astrology as well.
Ive read your post more carefully skeptic. Actually your quite racist what your saying is that black people are basically stupid.
The Vikings were black and so where the Celts. Also, The Kings and Queens of early England were all Moorish Hebrews. Anglo Saxons mean Angelic Sons of Isaac, Jews.
Well, Svartgoth, I apologize if I seemed to be arguing that white people are superior to others. I don’t believe that. I was simply refuting Jahdey’s arguments that black Africans are responsible for every European achievement. I know about the contributions and accomplishments of Arabs and the people of the Islamic Empire. I agree with your point that “everyone has their time of greatness,” and I meant to make this point as well. I did, however, refer readers to “Guns, Germs, and Steel”, which is a good book that explains things on this subject.
“Skeptic do you know any other race of people that have acted so aggressively to other races on the whole?”
Everyone has, just not as efficiently and extensively as Europeans, but the tendency toward these things, to kill and destroy, etc., is inherent in everyone.
“Skeptic you need to understand what im saying. I am not trying to say that Europeans are entirely to blame why Africa is the way it is, Africans have responsibility as well, but you cant sit here and criticse African people for not developing when Europeans have done alot to ruin Africa.
“Let me make a sceneario. This is like you coming into my house beating me up, taking my stuff, smashing the place up and then coming back to my house and saying “Why is this place a dumpâ€. I am just trying to illustrate a point.”
I see your point, but I’ll repeat that in order to refute Jahdey, I had to point these things out. I don’t disagree with your arguments.
“Actually your quite racist what your saying is that black people are basically stupid.”
No, you’re mistaken, because I don’t believe that. I’ll apologize again for offending you. Why are under the impression that I believe that?
“The Vikings were black and so where the Celts. Also, The Kings and Queens of early England were all Moorish Hebrews. Anglo Saxons mean Angelic Sons of Isaac, Jews.”
I really feel a lot of pity for those of you who read these things and think you’re educating yourself. None of this is true, Eleazer. Sorry.