Ancient African Kings Of India
By
Dr. Clyde Winters
Ethiopians have had very intimate relations with Indians. In fact, in antiquity the Ethiopians ruled much of India. These Ethiopians were called the Naga. It was the Naga who created Sanskrit.
A reading of ancient Dravidian literature which dates back to 500 BC, gives us considerable information on the Naga. In Indian tradition the Naga won central India from the Villavar (bowmen) and Minavar (fishermen).
The Naga were great seamen who ruled much of India, Sri Lanka and Burma. To the Aryans they described as half man and snake. The Tamil knew them as warlike people who used the bow and noose.
The earliest mention of the Naga, appear in the Ramayana , they are also mentioned in the Mahabharata. In the Mahabharata we discover that the
Naga had the capital city in the Dekkan, and other cities spread between the Jumna and Ganges as early as 1300 BC. The Dravidian classic, the Chilappathikaran made it clear that the first great kingdom of India was
Naganadu.
The Naga probably came from Kush-Punt/Ethiopia. The Puntites were the greatest sailors of the ancient world. In the Egyptian inscriptions there is mention of the Puntite ports of Outculit, Hamesu and Tekaru, which corresponds to Adulis, Hamasen and Tigre.
In Sumerian text, it is claimed that the Puntites traded with the people of the Indus Valley or Dilmun. According to S.N. Kramer in The Sumerians, part of Punt was probably called Meluhha, and Dilmun was probably the ancient name of the Indus Valley. (Today some scholars maintain that Oman, where we find no ancient cities was Dilmun and the Indus Valley may have been Meluhha).
Ancient Ethiopian traditions support the rule of Puntites or Ethiopians of India. In the Kebra Nagast, we find mention of the Arwe kings who ruled India. The founder of the dynasty was Za Besi Angabo. This dynasty according to the Kebra Nagast began around 1370 BC. These rulers of India and Ethiopia were called Nagas. The Kebra Nagast claims that ” Queen Makeda “had servants and merchants; they traded for her at sea and on land in the Indies and Aswan”. It also says that her son Ebna Hakim or Menelik I, made a campaign in the Indian Sea; the king of India made gifts and donations and prostrated himself before him”. It is also said that Menalik ruled an empire that extended from the rivers of Egypt (Blue Nile) to the west and from the south Shoa to eastern India”, according to the Kebra
Nagast. The Kebra Nagast identification of an eastern Indian empre ruled by
the Naga, corresponds to the Naga colonies in the Dekkan, and on the East
coast between the Kaviri and Vaigai rivers.
The presence of Meluhhaites/ Puntites in India may expain the Greek tradition of Kusites ruling India up to the Ganges. It would also explain the Aryan traditions of Mlechchas ( Sanskrit name for some of the non-Aryan people) as one of the aboriginal groups of India. Many scholars associate the name Mlechchas with Meluhha.
The major Naga tribes were the Maravar, Eyinar, Oliyar, Oviyar, Aru-Valur and Parathavar. The Nagas resisted the invansion of the Cholas. In the Kalittokai IV,1-5, the Naga are described as being “of strong limbs and hardy frames and fierce looking tigers wearing long and curled locks of hair.” The Naga kings of Sri Lanka are mentioned in the: Mahawanso, and are said to have later become Dravidians, as testified to by the names of these people: Naganathan, Nagaratnam, Nagaraja and etc.
The major gift of the Naga to India was the writing system: Nagari. Nagari is the name for the Sanskrit script. Over a hundred years ago Sir William Jones, pointed out that the ancient Ethiopic and Sanskrit writing are one and the same.
William Jones, explained that the Ethiopian origin of Sanskrit was supported by the fact that both writing systems the writing went from left to right and the vowels
were annexed to the consonants. Today Eurocentric scholars teach that Indians taught writing to the Ethiopians, yet the name Nagari for Sanskrit betrays the Ethiopia origin of this form of writing. Moreover, it is interesting to note that Sanskrit vowels: a,aa,’,I,u,e,o, virama etc., are in the same order as Geez.
The Ethiopian script has influenced many other writing systems. Y.M. Kobishnor, in the Unesco History of Africa, maintains that Ethiopic was used as the model for Armenian writing, as was many of the Transcaucasian scripts. Dravidian literature indicate that the Naga may have introduced worship of Kali, the Serpent, Murugan and the Sun or Krishna. It is interesting to note that a god called Murugan is worshipped by many people in East Africa.
It is interesting that Krishna, who was associated with the Sun, means Black, this is analogous to the meaning of Khons of the Kushites. Homer, described Hercules as follows: “Black he stood as night his bow uncased, his arrow string for flight”. This mention of arrows identifies the Kushites as warriors who
used the bow, a common weapon of the Kushites and the Naga.
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Kumarinadu
The Naga or Ethiopians were defeated by Dravidian speaking people from Kumarinadu. Kamarinadu is suppose to have formerly existed as a large Island in the India ocean which connected India with East Africa. This landmass is mentioned in the Silappadikaram, which said that Kamarinadu was made up of seven nadus or regions. The Dravidian scholars Adiyarkunallar and Nachinaar wrote about the ancient principalities of Tamilaham, which existed on Kamarinadu.
Kumarinadu was ruled by the Pandyans/Pandians at Madurai before it
sunk beneath the sea. The greatest king of Kumarinadu was Sengoon.
According to Dravidian scholars the Pandyans worshipped the goddess Kumari Amman. This Amman, probably corresponds to the ancient god Amon of the Kushites.
The Kalittokai 104, makes it clear that after the Pandyans were forced to migrate off their Island home into South India, “to compensate for the area lost to the great waves of the sea, King Pandia without tiresome moved to the other countries and won them. Removing the emblems of tiger (Cholas) and bow (Cheras) he, in their place inscribed his reputed emblem fish (Pandia’s) and valiantly made his enemies bow to him”.
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Also Dr. Winters keep up the good work in studying African movements around the world. Most people in this country do not know these things black or white. I think what you are doing is very important and amazing. As an African American I am very proud of what you just discussed. I believe the people who are reacting negatively to you do not know what you just explained is beneficial to improving knowledge in world history. Please continue what you are doing and spread the knowledge. Forget these racist idiots they never entered a college in there life lol. The Indian Sanskrit script has African origins I had no idea and I’m a history minor Amazing work Dr. Winters
Phylogeographic analyses suggest that a large component of the present Khoisan gene pool is eastern African in origin and that Asia was the source of a back migration to sub-Saharan Africa. Haplogroup IX Y chromosomes appear to have been involved in such a migration, the traces of which can now be observed mostly in northern Cameroon.
Excerpt taken from:
Am J Hum Genet. 2002 May;70(5):1197-214. Epub 2002 Mar 21.
A back migration from Asia to sub-Saharan Africa is supported by high-resolution analysis of human Y-chromosome haplotypes.
Cruciani F, Santolamazza P, Shen P, Macaulay V, Moral P, Olckers A, Modiano D, Holmes S, Destro-Bisol G, Coia V, Wallace DC, Oefner PJ, Torroni A, Cavalli-Sforza LL, Scozzari R, Underhill PA.
SourceDipartimenti di Genetica e Biologia Molecolare, Università La Sapienza, Rome, Italy. fulvio.cruciani@uniroma1.it
Can anyone tell me what the heck this means in terms of what it’s saying in relation to: “Asia was the source of a back migration to sub-Saharan Africa”. This kind of talk is always so confusing especially when the excerpt taken from the study mentions that a large component of Khoisian gene pool is East African in origin and that Asia was the source of a back migration. Was there a back migration from Asia into sub-Saharan Africa or is this assumed because of the diversity found there? Could it be said the other way around that rather than a back migration occuring the original pioneers left the continent and never looked back? There is a stricking similarity between South African Tribes and Asians. ‘Africa’ as it’s commonly referred to gave birth to the whole human family and therefore has offered much more than it will ever be given credit for.
I believe it is possible that some of the some of the peoples that look like the San in AFrica and certain Munda speakers of India came from Africa however some of them appear closely related to the Neolithic peoples of the painted pottery culture of Asia and Eurasia. They may have had some link to early small gracile neolithic peoples as found among Badarians, certain Saharans and certain neolithic Europeans. The Haratin or Teda Kareda and some of the Beja also have a strong Khoisan appearance.
However, I don’t think however this is the migration they are talking about that came back into Africa. One people that definitely may have come back were likely of Arabian or Afro-Arabian stock and of the Ubaid stock that had probably in Mesopotamia Anatolia and Syria since the Mesolithic and may have had some connection to the robust Natufian peoples (judging from certain cultural traits).
Just a reminder I posted a comment and received a reply from Dingane Walker. I responded with a return reply and in turn am awaiting your return reply or a reply from anyone for that matter who has anything to add or wishes to address the above comment from Desertman. (Please see DesertMan above)
Thanks.
“I believe it is possible that some of the some of the peoples that look like the San in AFrica and certain Munda speakers of India came from Africa however some of them appear closely related to the Neolithic peoples of the painted pottery culture of Asia and Eurasia.”
DesertMan:
I was noticing the striking resemblence of Southern African tribes to Oriental Asia in general and noting that these very well could have derived from these tribes.
Regarding Back migrations:
The study doesn’t seem to distinguish between East African DNA and a back migration to Africa from Asia. Could this mean that what is distinguishable is the influence of Asian pottery? Do you believe they are talking about ancient migrations or are these more recent migrations?
1. present Khoisan gene pool IS EASTERN AFRICAN in origin
2. and that ASIA was the SOURCE of a BACK MIGRATION to sub-Saharan Africa.
My question is how do these two comments tie together? 1. says “large component of present Khoisan gene pool is Eastern African” while 2. says “Asia was the source of a back migration”. Is the study tieing the “large component of present Khoisan gene pool” to Asia being the source? If so then it would seem that what is being stated is that the gene pool although East African was present in Asia and migrated back to Africa and that what the migration was detected through a similarity with Asian pottery? Am i interpreting this correctly? and do you have any Neolithic links you could direct me to?
By the way, I find your replys throughout thouroughly thought out. Thank you. Very nice to have across you.
I think when they say this it most often refers to the movement of neolithic Afro-Asiatic speakers, not Khoisan or San peoples. However, there would be no inconsistency in saying that their was a movement of ancestors of the latter back into east Africa at some proto-historic point in time, while at the same time being related to East Africans.
O.K. what they’re saying is that a large component of the Khoisan gene pool went from East to South and that Asia…again, so what about Asia? How does this tie in to the statement of the first sentence? Khoisan gene pool from East to South? So the gene pool went from East to South. What does this have to do with Asia? Isn’t the study relating the Khoisan gene pool to the Asian back migration in this statement although in the same statement it says the Khoisan gene pool is East African: “Phylogeographic analyses suggest that a large component of the present Khoisan gene pool is eastern African in origin and that Asia was the source of a back migration to sub-Saharan Africa. Haplogroup IX Y chromosomes appear to have been involved in such a migration, the traces of which can now be observed mostly in northern Cameroon.” In particular the first three lines.
And if the gene pool is largely East African is there any information that would support an Asian back migration that is being proposed? What would this be based on (I guess is my question) since in the same statement it talks of the Khoisan people and their gene pool being Eastern African. What would this have to do with an Asian back migration? Since it seems that that’s what’s being stated.
I guess I should be focusing my attention to Haplogroup IX Y Chromosomes. This probably would tell me the timeline they’re refering to.
Do you have any Neolithic Links?
Where do you think Indian people come from? Indians wouldn’t even Exist without Ethiopia!
The Elamites, along with other Semitic people from Arabia, as well as the Abyssinian’s/Ethiopians Established & populated the Nation of India From the Beginning!
Thank you for your answer. Since you’re pointing this out, I’m not all that familiar with who the Elamites and others like the Abyssinian’s are and who they’re affliliated with although I’m certain it’s as you say. I assume by your opening statement they are all members of the larger Ethiopic family as well as a large portion of other Semetic people from Arabia. My question however was if a large back migration from Asia into sub-Saharan Africa was the source of a large part of the gene pool found there. If what you’re saying by your answer is that yes there was a back migration from Asia into sub-Saharan Africa but being one in the same as members of the Ethiopic family it would have little impact if any at all since Ethiopia populated much of that region if not all, then I see your point…please clarify. But otherwise, what is your take on the statement: ‘Phylogeographic analyses suggest that a large component of the present Khoisan gene pool is eastern African in origin and that ASIA WAS THE SOURCE of a back migration to sub-Saharan Africa.’ Wait wait Hold on, before I go on, I think I’m getting hung up on PHYLOGEOGRAPHIC, which simply would make reference to classifying observed geographic associations similarities which in this case would only support your statement…again please clarify if this is the statement you’re making.
Thanks.
Just a reminder I posted a comment and received a reply from Dingane Walker. I responded with a return reply and in turn am awaiting your return reply or a reply from anyone for that matter who has anything to add or wishes to address the above comment from Desertman. (Please see DesertMan above)
Thanks.
Kalsa
Engish is not God’s Language.
The Chinese president doesn’t speak english. neither do most chinese.
Kalsa just becoz you are born in Africa does not make you African. You are an Indian and practice hindu culture. So you cannot be African.
Kalsa the stuff here makes National geographic look like mickey Mouse. In fact National Geographic may not want people in the west to know about the Truth.
Kalsa knowing what most of you guys do. I doubt whether you actually pay your taxes. I really doubt. Secondly you got those businesses with the opression of Black /Nguni people in SA. You were a second class white during aparthied.
Are proud of that?
Now Most of you are masquerading as Blacks.
When the young Lions Malema and Jimmy Manyi mention these facts you all run to the white media saying they – Malemas are racist for reminding you that. you gat a head start.
Kalsa I know of some SA white people who have been stealing minerals from Zimbabwe.
Including some big companies smuggling and underdeclaring.
MUGABE caught them. (Chimurenga Phase 4)
Chimurenga will eventually come knocking on your door. I dont know what the workers you oppress will call it in Zulu.
Its your kind of UN-Afrikan arrogance that makes Afrikans like Idi Amin show you the door back to India.
My mans Khalsa – you and the boers and the afrikaners fully well know for blacks this is history (prophecy ) being fulfilled be it negative /positive we are theonly people to see history and walk into it. It is only a cycle of time whereas you are only a prop onstage, something has to capture the little things. The world is the stage and black peoples(your brahma,shiva , and krishna ) are the producers,writers ,and directors. LIGHTS ,CAMERAS ,aaaand ACTION !!!
@ Muwanga.
As a black person u should be ashamed of yourself for insulting a proud South African. It is us real South Africans who have put Africa on the map and are the only beacon of light, intelligence and civilization on this continent. So called blacks (Congoloids) have let this continent down. Chimps like Julius Malema and Mugabe are examples of the type of leadership this continent produces in the 21st century.
Will the real South Africans arise and save the continent again?
I have replied to your childish commentary above – Your Desiness. From a black ( and satisfied with it) in America.
good one, Never knew of such a relationship