Black African Origins Of The Ancient Greeks Parts 1 and 2
By: Dr. Anu Mauro
It was common knowledge in ancient times that the Greeks were a spin-off of ancient and most revered Ethiopians. The Greeks themselves recorded their much vaunted relationship with the ancient Ethiopians heros in their holy books which narrate accounts of mythological Ethiopian derived heros such as
Hercules, Persus, Athene, Cassopia, Andromeda etc.
Below are some relevant myths (edited) with ‘exploratory’ notes.
ONE
MYTH NO. 8 –THE GREEK MYTHS: VOLUME 1
THE BIRTH OF ATHENE
According to the Pelasgians, the goddess Athene was born beside Lake Tritonis in Libya, where she was found and nurtured by the three nymphs of Libya, who dress in goat-skins. As a girl she killed her play-mate, Pallas, by accident, while they were engaged in friendly combat with spear and shield and, in token of grief, set Pallas’s name before her own. (hence the name PALLAS ATHENE) — Pg. 44
NOTE ON TEXT — By Robert Graves
1. Plato identified Athene, patroness of Athens, with the Libyan god-dess Neith, .. the aegis…. a magical goat-skin bag containing a serpent and protected by a Gorgon mask, was Athene’s long before Zeus claimed to be her father. Goat-skin aprons were the habitual costume of Libyan girls, and Pallas merely means ‘maiden’, or ‘youth’. Herodotus writes (iv. 189):
‘Athene’s garments and aegis were borrowed by the Greeks from the Libyan women, who are dressed in exactly the same way, except that their leather garments are fringed with thongs, not serpents.’ Ethiopian girls still wear this costume, which is sometimes ornamented with cowries, a yonic symbol.
— Robert Graves The Greek Myths: Published by Penguin Books
2…….Herodotus indicates that the loud cries of triumph, olulu, ololu, uttered in honour of Athene were of Libyan origin. . — Robert Graves: The Greek Myths.
NOTE by Anu Mauro
3. This noise producing activity in our time is now actually called
‘ullulation.’ It is the yodel like celebratory cry quite common all
across south Saharan Africa among contemporary African female populations.
Also use of this cry is still retained in the African descended cultures in the Levant (Palestine Syria Egypt etc. ) –Anu Mauro.
NOTE ON TEXT — By Robert Graves
4. Pottery finds suggest a Libyan immigration into Crete as early as 4000 B.C. ; and a large number of goddess-worshipping Libyan refugees from the Western Delta seem to have arrived there when Upper and Lower Egypt were forcibly united under the First Dynasty about the year 3000 B.C. The First Minoan Age began soon afterwards, and Cretan culture spread to Thrace and
Early Helladic Greece. —- Robert Graves The Greek Myths: 1
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PART TWO
But then who were the Libyans and how are they also connected to Perseus and Andromeda and Ethiopians? …especially bearing in mind that Chemmis, located on the Nile was the name given to ancient Egypt and also translates as black or charred and that the entire continent of Africa west of Egypt
was know as Lybia in ancient times. The two word answer is ‘origins’ and ‘ancestry.’
GREEK MYTH 60 –THE GREEK MYTHS: VOLUME 1
BELUS AND THE DANAAIDS
a. KING BELUS, who ruled at Chemmis in the Thebaid, was the son of Libya by Poseidon, and twin-brother of Agenor. His wife Anchinoe daughter of Nilus, bore him the twins Aegyptus and Danaus, and a third son third son, Cepheus.
Aegyptus was given Arabia as his kingdom; but also subdued the country of the Melampodes, (blackfeet) and named it Egypt after himself.
b. Fifty sons were born to him of various mothers: Libyans, Arabians, Phoenicians, and the like. Danaus, (who was) sent to rule Libya, had fifty daughters called the Danaids, also born of various mothers: Naiads, Hamadryads. Egyptian princesses of Elephantis and Memphis, Ethiopians, and the like.
c. On Belus’s death, the twins quarrelled over their inheritance, and as a conciliatory gesture Aegyptus proposed a mass-marriage between the fifty princes and the fifty princesses. Danaus, suspecting a plot would not consent and when an oracle confirmed his fears that Aegyptus had it in his mind to kill all the Danaids, prepared to flee from Libya.
d. With Athene’s assistance, he built a ship for himself and his daughters – the first two-prowed vessel that ever took to sea – and they sailed towards Greece together, by way of Rhodes.
i. Aegyptus now sent his sons to Argos, forbidding them to return until they had punished Danaus and his whole family. On their arrival, they begged Danaus to reverse his former decision and let them marry his daughters – intending, however, to murder them on the wedding night. When he still refused, they laid siege to Argos.
j. When the siege was lifted a mass-marriage was arranged, and Danaus paired off the couples: his choice being made in some cases because the bride and bridegroom had mothers of equal rank, or because their names were similar – thus Cleite, Sthenele, and Chrysippe married Cleitus, Sthenelus, and Chrysippus
k. During the wedding-feast Danaus secretly doled out sharp pins which his daughters were to conceal in their hair; and at midnight each stabbed her husband through the heart. There was only one survivor; on Artemis’s advice, Hypermnestra saved the life of Lynceus, because he had spared her maidenhead; and helped him in his flight to the city of Lyncea, sixty furlongs away.
1. The murdered men’s heads were buried at Lema, and their bodies given full funeral honours below the walls of Argos; ….Athene and Hermes purified the Danaids in the Lemaean Lake with Zeus’s permission. Lynceus later killed Danaus, and reigned in his stead.
Meanwhile, Aegyptus had come to Greece, but when he learned lphis sons’ fate, fled to Aroe, where he died, and was buried at Patrae in a sanctuary of Serapis
NOTE ON TEXT — By Robert Graves
l. This myth records the early arrival in Greece of Helladic colonists (from Palestine, by way of Rhodes, and their introduction of agriculture into the Peloponnese. It is claimed that they included emigrants from Lybia and Ethiopia, which seems probable. — Robert Graves The Greek Myths: 1
NOTE ON TEXT — by Anu Mauro
This myth also clearly suggests that the children of Dana-us i.e. the Danaids were of African or Ethiopic origin on both their maternal and paternal sides…note their mothers place origins, as well as the paternal connection with Aegyptus, Cepheus and Belus. –Anu Mauro.
NOTE ON TEXT — by James Brunson
” Throughout the Greek legends, an Africoid or dark-skinned people are associated with Danaus and the Danaids. (The poet) Aeschylus’s, “Suppliant Maidens”, describes the Danides as “Black and smitten by the “sun”. (In the poem) when the Danaids claim an ethnic kinship to Epaphos, son of Zeus, the Argive king Pelops, rebukes them:
Nay, strangers, what ye tell is past belief
For me to hear, that ye from Argos spring
For ye to Libyan women are most like,
And no wise to our native maidens here.””
—- James Brunson : The African Presence in the Ancient Mediterranean: Isles and Mainland Greece Pg. 48 African Presence in Early Europe– Edited by Ivan Van Sertima
NOTE ON TEXT — by Anu Mauro
So this places Ethiopics not only in the early migrant populations that settled in Greece but the Danaid link can also be used to connect Perseus himself to dark skinned Ethiopic elements not to mention Andromeda and her parents . This can be gleaned from the next installment of Greek myth (Part 3) wherein the great-grand father of Perseus, his grandfather as well as his mother are shown to have had Danaaid (hence African) connections.
— Anu Mauro
Ok, now, explain to me this…Greeks are light skinned (compared to africans)…as were ancient greeks…as proven by paintings, mosaics, etc…so how were they black…I believe you called it a mutation?…thats how evolution happens…gradual mutation..and you’re trying to tell me, that evolution changed an entire group of people white in under 10,000 years, I find that highly unlikely…and i’d be careful about how you define african…being from africa somewhere down the genetic line is a given, humans came from africa, I would not define a group of people with a unique culture, outside of africa, speaking a language not related to any african language..as african…
This is my problem with white/black nationalism…you base your claims of black origin on these tiny facts that a few and very far between…and usually worthless…the vast majority of experts agree that the greeks were white, and ARE white, and still live in Hellas, where they always ahve…you’re basing your entire logic on pseudo-science and stupidity, its basically a poorly constructed conspiracy theory, your logic is if there is 1% change it’s there, it HAS to be there, you’re basically the bush admin.
1.My idealogy is not outdated, its correct and 99.9 of TRUSTED historians would agree with that statement, you’re that .1 sitting in the corner thinking up useless and false conspiracy theories
2. I’m not a racist, dont try to pin me as such because the racist card wont work on me, I couldnt give two shits if someone calls me racist, I’m not buying into the double standard.
see part of my earlier comment:
but then again we live in a world where Don Imus saying “Nappy Headed Hoes†leads to him getting fired, yet Al Sharpton calling jews “White interlopers†and egging on a riot that eventually got an innocent jewish man KILLED is MINOR, apparently, as he’s still running in vain for president.
But anyway, your pseudo-science isnt not accepting because of the white run media, its not accepted because you’re full of shit about basing your entire logic on the issue off of 1% of the facts, and thats have racism, bigotry, and ignorance are born in the first place..
And attempting to steal culture wont help either : )
Jahdey likes to pick and choose what he wants from the ancient Greek writings, of which he understand very little of. For one ancient Greeks never claimed their origins were “black Africans”; what the ancient Greeks did was say THEIR civilization was AS OLD as Egypt’s, in other words making Greek cilivization, which was very Greek ethnocentric, as old as one of the oldest civilizations around. Jahdey also disregards what I stated before about what the ancient Greeks SAID about the Phoenicians but then again he had that post of mine deleted given it proves how full of lies his assumptions are. Never the less, here it is again:
The Phoenicians were not “East Black Africans” as he falsely states and even ancient Greeks, such as Herodotus, who he cite a lot but I doubt he read or even understand his works, tell us the Phoenicians arrived to the Red Sea from UNKNOWN ORIGINS “migrated to the Mediterranean from an unknown origin and settled in the parts which they now inhabit, began at once, they say, to adventure on long voyages, freighting their vessels with the wares of Egypt and Assyria”. So if the Phoenicians were the “Black Africans” and the ancient Greeks he claims knew the “African region” and her people why did the ancient Greeks claim the Phoenicians as unknown origins, hmm? So that dubious claim that the Phoenicians were “Africans” goes against what those ancient Greeks he site STATE.
The ancient Greeks and Romans although both were familiar with the term Kush(the name used by the Egyptians to describe Nubians) called “Aithiopes” or “Burnt-Faced People” ALL Africans SOUTH of Egypt including Nubians and Ethiopians and all Black Africans in the Southern fringes of Northwest Africa. The regions that I mentioned above which they considered “Near East” are all NORTH of Egypt and their people were never referred to as “Ethiopians” by either the ancient Greeks or the Romans. Glad you brought that up, another perfect example of what I said before about ancient Greek and Roman writers having zero understanding of African cultures.
Greeks never considered themselves kins to Black Africans either and anyone who believes otherwise knows very little about what the ancient Greeks said. For one they didn’t speak as “glowingly” about Egypt as some believe, and they never considered Egyptians “Black” because they never called Egyptians “Aithiopes” or “Burnt-Faced People”, that term was associated by the Greeks to ALL Africans SOUTH of Egypt including Nubians and Ethiopians and all Black Africans in the Southern fringes of Northwest Africa. Ancient Greek and Roman classical authors often/regularly differentiated between Egyptians and Ethiopians, something the dibouse ‘sources’ Afrocentric use overlook for obvious reasons. But the Greeks did consider the Egyptians darker then themselves and as different from themsleves(the Greeks) and they state as much in their literature. I also take it that people do not know that the Greeks only considered THEMSELVES European, not Africans, not Asians and definitely not any other none Hellenic groups, given how Hellenicentric that they were. So yes Greeks were very much Eurocentrics, you can say they were the first Eurocentric peoples given their ideology.
There is no evidence what so ever with the except of Alexander that any of those Greeks mentioned in a previous post as “stealers of African culture” EVER traveled to Egypt never mind Africa. “Africa and Africans” are terms that the Greeks mentioned above would not have used since it is a ROMAN terminology and only was designate to populations of the coastal regions of North Africa west of Egypt (e.g. Numidians, Moors), of the Carthaginians and their allies, and of the inhabitants of the Roman province of Africa. The term did not become interchangeably to mean “African” as “Black ie. Ethiopian” until the 18th and 19th century, a modern thought process that was totally contradicted by the ancient authors and evidence.
Ironically those same ancient men would have considered Jahdey, myself and anyone who is not Hellenic origins in the same freakish barbaric way. Aristotle told Alexander “to treat Greeks as friends, but barbarians like animals”, Jahdey and I would both be considered “barbarians” by ancient Greek standards, so the irony of Jahdey comments is quite humorous given its totally lost to him. As stated many times before Ancient Greeks did not consider the Nordic as their kin but they sure as heck never considered Black Africans as their kin either. This is a civilization that viewed anyone different from them, and Black Africans were so as hell different, as barbarians. I recommend people read Inventing the Barbarian : Greek Self-Definition through Tragedy. Unfortunately for individuals like Jahdey even scientific evidence proves them wrong, now that is what is pathetic and desperation. Ancient Greeks never considered themselves kins to Africans and modern genetics proves this correctly given not one Hg marker from any of the ancient Greek skeleton remains found so far and tested show any genetic connection to Africans. The one slightly influenced that was found in a MODERN Greek is of recent migration, not ancient one and that can be even chalked up to errors. Ancient Greeks such as Herodotus were central ethnographic and this is what they taught, as stated before their view of none Hellenic people including Africans was not favorable given they couldn’t understand them not only culturally by literally. Their extend of “knowledge” of African cultures was barely nothing. Oh and if you actually do read Herodotus Histories and not misrepresented segments taken out of context found on the internet he confirms that ancient Greeks viewed Africans including Egyptians as foreigners even during Pelasgian times. So sorry.
hey jahdey
POST YOUR SOURCES YOU SAD SAD PERSON!!!!!!!!
and they better be acceptable sources YOU LOSER!!!!!!!
have you ever heard of Harvard University, GYPSY? look up what they say about greeks YOU SPAZO…….everything harvard says proves u 110% wrong. why dont u accept this, you thief?
you think your false propaganda is correct but all the great universities around the world are wrong?????
this just shows how BRAINWASHED you are and it sucks for us GREEKS!!!
The Greeks HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINS OF ‘GREEK CIVILIZATION.’
The fact is the so Greeks ( Negrecians) were originally people from Egypt. Dorian barbarians entered Greece with the great migrations of ‘Aryan’ language speakers from Eastern Europe/Central Asia about 2100 BC.
By then, Greek (the Peloponeses) had been occupied by BLACK KHEMITES (those who say Egyptians are not ‘Black’ – YES, IF THEY CAME FROM ARABIA, SYRIA, WESTERN ASIA, EUROPE — WHICH IS WHAT THE PRESENT ‘EGYPTIANS’ LIVING IN EGYPT’S CITIES ARE DESCENDED FROM)
However, the Black Fellahim living in the rural parts of Egypt and Nubians in Aswan ARE BLACK AFRICANS AND THE TRUE EGYPTIANS.
As for the Japanese — WHO DO YOU THINK FIRST LIVED IN JAPAN BEFORE THE KOREANS MIGRATED THERE?
The Black Anu, a branch of Black Negro people spread from East Africa to Melanesia. Rest assured, there are pictures of ancient Japanese people WHO LOOK LIKE MELANESIANS —
The original ‘Ainu’ of Japan were also of East African origins — over the years, they have been mixed out of existence by Caucasian Russian types and Mongoloids.
Both the Yayoi Japanse and Korean ancestry Japanese are recent migrants to Japan. In fact, prehistoric Japanese houses dating to 10,000 BC SHOW THE AFRICAN ’roundhut’ form of building with many houses in clusters and fenced in.
As for the Japanese langugae, it like the Greek language is based on the African manner of speaking and has A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF AFRICAN PREFIX AND SUFFIX FORMS.
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Finally, all this racist attacks on ‘Afro-centrics’ make me want to throw up.
Are you all attacking the RACIST RELIGIOUS LIES PLACED IN THE ‘KING JAMES VERSION’ OF THE BIBLE?
If people want to attack something, WHY NOT ATTACK THE RACIST LIES OF CHRISTIANITY, USED TO ENSLAVE PEOPLE AND STEAL THEIR LANDS,COMMIT GENOCIDE AND OCCUPY OTHERS TERRITORY.
Recently, it was found out that the pre-Roman Etruscians WERE ACTUALLY OF PERSIAN ORIGINS. These Etrucians laid the foundation for Roman civilizations (ALONG WITH THE KHEMITES – EGYPTIANS – who helped built rome, the world’s first ‘ghetto’ of wooden houses and slums before Cleopatdrat built it up. http://www.myspace.com/bestsellingbooks – LEARN HISTORY
Who were the original people of Persia who laid the foundation for Persian civilization and were a great civilization for three thousand years before the present type of Persian arose (a mixture of Caucasian and Cu$hite Negro)?
IT WAS THE BLACK CU$HITE PEOPLE WHOSE ORIGINS ARE IN SUDAN/ETHIOPIA.
The original people of Cush (says the Greeks and others – and recorded in our ancient books ) were Black African Negroes. They were spread from Sudan all the way to Southern China in ancient times.
In fact, the founder of the Shang Dynasty in China was a Black Cushi from Mesopotamia called Hu-Na-Kunte, he settled on the Loh River Valley in 2800 BC, after migrating from Mesopotamia.
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http://blackmalepower.proboards106.com
http://www.raceandhistory.com
The history of Black people globally is so facinating that MYSTRIES THAT WILL BOGGLE THE MIND ARE NOW BEING DISCOVERED.
For example — WHERE IS THE ‘ZINGH EMPIRE’ mentioned in history books — except by the most ancient culture on earth — the Sudanese, West Africans, Ethiopians, Egyptians and Indo-Negroid people of India?
The Zingh Empire existed from about 15,000 BC to about 3000 BC. It was based in the region from Cape Verde to India and from Northern Mali to Cameroon. The Zingh Empire was ruled by the mythical God-King ‘Tyru’ who was an African and whose standard (red, black, green) flew from Cape Verde in West Africa to India’s ancient Indus Valley civilization.
After the Sahara began to dry up ( a place of a large inland sea, great forests, lakes, meadows, farmland, towns and cities, lots of roads – see http://blackmalepowermovement.forumsland.com ), THE AFRICANS LIVING IN THE SAHARA MIGRATED SOUTHWARD, OTHERS MOVED NORTHWARD AND EASTWARD.
We happen to know one of these groups of Africans — they are called the Anu (as in Anuak, Anu – two large ethnic groups in Sudan, one in Australia and one related called ‘Ainu’ in Japan who are not bleached out beyond recognition).
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CRITICIZE ‘AFROCENTRISTS’ PLEASE FURNISH INFORMATION THAT YOUR VERSION OF HISTORY IS A FACT.
ALSO FURNISH TO ME THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE ‘SON’ OF GOD, AS PREACHED BY CHRISTIANS.