African Indians
Compared to the fate of Africans of the Americas, the history of Africans in India is still largely unknown to the west.
There are small communities like Jambur scattered along India’s west coast. They are the home to the descendants of Africans who arrived on theIndian continent thousands of years ago. Many of them travelled there as mercenaries, merchants and sailors.
Sea trade between east and southern Africa, and Gujarat in India was established more than 2,000 years ago.
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Many of India’s kings and princes recruited Africans as their ministers, personal bodyguards, and musicians. In some parts of India and Pakistan Sidis even rose to be powerful generals or kings themselves.
BBC: In pictures: India’s African Communities
Hye,
I’m an african and i would like what is exactly the situation of black people there in India…just give the thruth.
thanks
bladeboxe
I would like to be your friend
Hi,
I came by and saw your answer to me (after many years…)
If you are still ok I would to know about you too and eventually be your friend.
I wish I have a dear true indian friend (but if you are african then that is also ok).
Hope to read you soon (bladeboxe@msn.com ).
B.
i was just reading about Africans in India. check out a book called “African Elites in India – Habshi Amarat” by Kenneth X Robbins & John McLoad. Inda had links with Africa long before Europens arrived on the scene. some africans came as traders, merchants, or mercenary soldiers. others came as slaves. though it appears to me that this sort of slvery cannot be compared ti european trans atlantic slavery like in America. More like internal slavery within africa and the arab world, slaves were not regarded as lesser human beings and in many cases rose to prominent positions of power. In india up until independence two kindoms (Janjira and Sachin) were run by african dynasties. Its a pity how little we actually know of our history. In many ways India was a more global and less bigotted place few hundred years ago
Greetings in the name of Yahshua Adonai. I am always interested in reading about African history.The black man is where he is at the bottom rung of society and looked down upon by other races because he left off worshiping the true and living God and went into idolatry. My message to all my black bros and sisters is return to the true worship of the living and true god and you shall be restored to your position of prominence in the world. By the way I am no rasta but I was born with the original dada. Shalom !
You are A TOTAL uninformed idiot and speaks nonsense. You know so little about blacks. What in GODS name does the crimes committed against blacks have to do with worship? Go back to the hole you came out of.
Hi, I’m christian too. Can we speak more about this suject.
I’m really interested.
Plus I’m learn hindi to go in India.
(Bladeboxe@msn.com)
I really hope ro read you Vinal ji.
B.
what i really wanted to know was can a Trinidadian that comes from a blood line of Indians become a Rastafarian? leave your comments at trinicolada@yahoo.com
thank you bless
Yes if they are black indian descendant, called the Dravidians black people in India is originally from east Africa. They are the descendant of the Ethiopian/Nubian people
greetings in the name of jah rastafari. teachings, no to racial pride , no to national pride,yes to one world ,yes to one race THE HUMAN RACE.throw out evil teachings. there is only one race, the human race.
My name is Adam Mikael Taalam. An African. A muslim is what I am. A rastafarian is what am striving to be. In solidarity with all who preach one race, the human race. If your faith inhibits you from becoming a full Rastaman then you can join the Friends Of His Imperial Majesty (FOHIM) and help showcase the Rastafarian cause by words and did in your neighbourhood and the world will be a better place. Long live His Imperial Majesty (HIM).
The history of so-called African Indians is a mystery to the writer as well….smoking too much weed me thinks.
The Sidi are just negroid slaves brought to India by the British…..God knows why….its not as if India needed any more low-class thrash, but there u have them….Sidis living in the bushes and jungles like animals, totally excluded from Hindhu society. It is a fallacy to things that there was a great, ancient naval Negroid migration to Europe and Asia……Negroid tribes had not even discovered iron and metals….how could they conquer any army or build a ship???
Hindhu society has a strict caste system, where untouchables (dark skinned people) are not allowed anywhere near a higher caste person……therfore it is impossible for Africans to serve with Hindu kings or satraps……. or even walk on the same street.
Dear Khalsa
you’re obviously poor and bitter; in additiion to this you need an education. Such a small mind, as your, limits your life and ability. You, of all people, are no better than anyone else. And you’re an embarassment to our community.
With that beng said, I DON’t CARE IF YOU’RE (european/white, African, Arab, Asian, Indian)
AT THE END OF THE DAY ALL OF YOU:
BURP, FART, POOP, PISS / URINATE, SLEEP, BREATHE, EAT, PASS GAS, SMELL (without the practice of bathing) and EVentually PASS AWAY- or become DECEASE or di
I DON’t Care what race you are: NONE OF YOU WILL LIVE FOREVER (no one)
and with that being said
NO ONE IS ANY BETTER THAN THE OTHER
I t doesn’t matter where you come from, what matters is the life that you live/legacy that is left behind
sho’ u-rite…
You really need to shut the f^%k up honestly, you do now know what you are talking about. I am from an extremely wealthy family and we respect people from all castes and race. These people are put down everyday and people like you make things worse. You need to keep your mouth shut and go back into the hole you came from.
whatever im black and pakistan.
Oh Kalsa…U are as ignorant as many who’ve been indoctrinated by multiple processes of illusion…how exactly did the dark skinned Indians some which are darker than many Indians become dark…? Also did U know that all civilization was birthed upon the Afrikan continent including the discovery of iron and metals/including many other natural resources…which are still in this day and age most prominent on the Afrikan continent than anywhere else…? Even Afrika ( South Afrika in particular) has the biggest Indian population outside of India than anywhere else in the world…trash Ur colonial history books and forget about the caste system…I live in India but am from Afrika and have both Afrikan, European and Indian blood running through my veins…I have lighter skin than most Afrikans but I’d be damned if I let that make me as pathetic and bureaucratic as you and many of those like you who assume you are superior in this day and age…
Very true Jill,
Indians are taught that light skin is better and they even bleach their skin to look more white. This is the poison of the “white supremacy” theory. Not “all” white people believe this but it is so embedded into this society people from all backgrounds fall prey to it.
Don’t be mad ’cause your skin ain;t brown…don’t hate your self…that is the way you was born…love your self…
This is false Im sorry to tell you. My family are African Indians that later migrated to Pakistan after the revolution when Pakistan was born and seperated from India, and we are of Royalty. We even have a monument erected to this day. I have pictures of my grandfather and greatgrandfather in their royal uniforms not running around as animals like you say. Also potraits that were drawn of my great great grandfather. I am a very fair skinned indian because my father married a french woman however I know my history, maybe I can show you something you dont know.
Khalsa, If you were from such a wealthy family perhaps they should pay for some education for you. You need more history lessons. The cradle of civilation comes from Africa. I am a fair skinned Indian that has even been mistook for an “ethnic white” however I know my history as I said and perhaps you should except yours.
civilization*
indian paki or whatever you dirty self destructive bastard call yourselves are themenace to society. I would rather be a nigger than a paki (terrorist). I love the lavish life of shower, runing water and toothpaste. I can imagine a hairy woman with smelly breath and lack of freshness. I think any religion who forbids clean habit and pro-death and one who worships cows is definately wrong. Paki makes ships where is history does it say a turbanite has any brain to make such a luxery maybe a metal camel that is.
the fact is paki are the lowest of lows on this planet and i don’t know why you guys exist because you are a bunch of suicidal incest breeds anyway.
Are you referring to black Pakistanis as well. This is poor show. Don’t let Kaka drasg you down; you must apologise to him for such abuse. Do it now. JahRsastafari
You sound like a idiot I rather be a blackman then a nigger.
Who are you calling trash ? Your a devil, and the caste systems got you all warped with your racism. ” as if india needed anymore lower class trash” its your crime type of mentality that created such anyways
Keep in mind your socalled defintions of people are very europeam – austroloid , negroid , and caucusoid . The socalled aboriginal people are thought of to be people who migrated from africa as well. You need to really need to get rid of that stench of caste crass of opinion
khalsa you just look at yourself very hatred has filled your heart and you will die with it open your eyes to read well and let the ignnorance of the world by-pass you. stand in the mirror and ask yourself am i a human being becuase only animal like you can tell humans that they are animals
Negroid tribes had not even discovered iron and metals….how could they conquer any army or build a ship???
…Read about the Nok culture in Nigeria, they discovered metals and used iron to fashion tools, utensils etc.
Read about Plato, Dionysius Aristotle and other ancient greeks who studied in Alexandra (Egypt) you ill find in their works several mentions of black people as the scribes and priests in ancient Egypt.
There are thousands of light skinned untouchables dumb ass. And Africans discovered iron because Zulus, Zandes, Mau Mau, Dogon etc… All have iron headed spears and iron tools. Your a racist dumb ass. The First Indians were African, before Aryans ever en showed up Ancient Africans and Mesopotamians showed up there. You have been taught and hoodwinked by the lies of Eurocentrism and its very sad.
I’m white and I have Indian friends. Most if them know that their ancestry is of negroid ancestry. They say that recently Indian anthropologists and historians alike have revealed and discovered many of the ancient texts and writings of Pre-European India. Most Dravidian Indians aren’t even born with straight hair, they straighten it to look more like Like skinned Indians. Many Indians bleach their skin at a very young age. So there are actually more dark skinned, nappy headed Indians walking around than we know. You seem like the sort of retart that thinks Sumerians were white too.
I,m not surprised the so-called “Khalsa” doesn,t sound like a human being name had it not been a hindhu one. Can people of your kind keep themselves in the hole they came out of and leave those who are proud in learning the history of our human society continue to fulfil their noble mission. Mr/sort of Khalsa lets be humble and tell you that African discovered the “Iron” thousands of years before Indians learnt from them. Let me make you aware that Africans once ruled India with no challenge. Let me remind you that in Africa we still welcome poor , miserable and beggers from India because the rest of the world has had enough of A BILLION of poor and homeless, so you have one and only last option; AFRICA.. Nevertheless, You are strictly warned your days to misbehave are well counting down before put back in your place and please reserve no surprise because the whole World is watching. Shame on you how INDIA is treating African students . Them kids were naïve and driven to learn, reason why they brought BILLION of DOLLARS in the INDIAN Economy. But because you are still uncivilised enough you judge them kids by the colour of their skin, you forget the BILLION of DOLLARS they bring for you to earn a bread you would have been able to buy had it not been their contribution to your INDIAN economy, despite all that you set your ignorant, bitter and brutal cops on them.. Racist INDIA time will come and you will be held accountable for atrocities committed against those African kids.!!
@ Khalsa please go do some basic reading before commenting.There was Malik Ambar whose original name was Shambu,who was born in the Harar province in Ethiopia in about 1550.The circumstances of how he became enslaved is unknown. but he ended up in India.His master at Mocha,Kazi Hussein,recognizing that Shambu possessed intellectual quilities,educated him in administration and finance.It was during this period that Shambu became a Muslim and was named Ambar by Hussien.
Around 1575 he was purchased by Chingiz Khan,The prime mister to Nizam Mul-Mulk Bani, king of Ahmadnagar. Chingiz khan was himself of African origin and may well have been a desendant of African mercenaries who served as far back as the 13th century in many parts of India. At any rate Chingiz Khan was one of several prominent Habishis in the area. Chingiz Khan was impressed by Amber’s knowledge of Arabic,his loyalty, and his general intellengence. It is likely that those qualities also won him the respect of the other Habishi slaves. In short he promoted Ambar to a position of military and administrative responsibility. He later served under another King at Bijapur where he became a military commander and was well respected by the Arab troops he commanded.
In about 1590, when the king refused to grant him additional funds for Arab trainees,he deserted and took several Arabs eith him.Malik Ambar and his Arab supporters attracted other men ,both African and Deccani, and eventually built up and independent army of 1500 cavalrymen and infantry who fought as mercenaries for various kings. He was able to gain control over King Murtaza 2nd , and with that he started his career as king and not a bad one at that. He stopped the Mughuls in their tracks attracted more trade to the Deccan and bulid public works . and yes he an Ex slave had Brahmins working for him as his principal financial officails and tax collectors.
Iron making goes back to Nok culture in Nigeria over 900 yrs bc other base metals thousands of yrs before that, steel making in east Africa is hundreds of yrs old, and the Sawahelli peoples and their ansectors has been sailing between India, Arabia , and possibily China from at least Greco-Roman times so go smoke on that.
Ackee people like Cheikh Anta Diop,J.A. Rogers,Runoko Rashidi, & Ivan Van Sertima
have written on this topic…great to have knowledge shared amongst those willing to read.
Khalsa enjoys stereotyping & going along with the “program” so as not to disturb certain folks.