Here are some interesting things:
Southern Italians were considered “black” in the South and were subjected to the Jim Crow laws of segregation. They weren’t allowed to marry “whites.” It was difficult, damn near impossible.
They were designated as “black” on census forms if they lived in the South and that is because the majority of them were dark-skinned Sicilians.
Mass lynchings happened to them often.
One of the biggest mass lynchings happened to Italians in New Orleans when they thought that a Italian immigrant had killed a “white” police officer.
The very few Northern Italians that immigrated here perpetuated the myth that Southern Italians and Greeks were of a different race than them in order to save their own asses. This wasn’t true, and there are actually dark-skinned Italians all over Italy, not just in the South, as well as light-skinned Italians all over Italy.
The reason I say very few is because over 80% of Italian immigrants were from Southern Italy (Sicily, Abruzzo, Calabria, Campania, Sardinia, Naples, etc.)
It was highly unlikely (damn near impossible) for a Southern Italian to own a slave because they were seen as the same as blacks, and at the time, they were the second (right behind blacks) most discriminated against group.
The mass immigration for Italians didn’t start until 1880 and even then, they were discriminated against. However, this mass immigration leads into Italian-Americans today:
Italian is the fourth largest ethnic group reported among white Americans.
The great majority of Italians are now middle class to upper middle class and wealthy. They also mostly work white collar jobs.
Their intermarriage rate is around 90%. It was at 80% in the 70’s. So most Italian-Americans also have a white parent of some other descent, especially if they were born after 1980. Exactly like my friend who has a Sicilian father (and he is very dark-skinned) and white Southerner for a mother. We spoke to my friend’s Sicilian grandfather, and he said that one of his brothers was dating a white girl from the South back in the day and that her family considered him “black.” They thought that was weird because by that time, they were living in New York.
They are now considered white
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I thought it was interesting looking at back then and looking at them now. I knew they weren’t considered white back then, but I had no idea they actually wrote them down as black on census forms. That shocked me, and when I found that my friend’s ancestor was listed as black on that census form, I thought the ancestor was just a biracial who had a Sicilian father, and so did she. We were just as surprised to find that he was just a teenage Sicilian immigrant. My friend has tanned skin, dark hair, blue eyes, and freckles to boot. So you can see both ethnicities in her. My Greek professor is way darker than her, and he also has a white, WASPY mother.
Italians are still discriminated against. I remember hearing a group of white women referring to them as “Ghetto Whites”. Many whites who feel they have a “true bloodline” dont like them. Anglo Saxonism is a bitch. Pretty much anyone not from England, Gemany (not Jews), Netherlands and so on is not “truly white”. From my experience and when I look at history, this is how white supremacists feel. Spaniards are technically considered Euopean/”white”, but many dont accept them as that. Discrimination among the white race is very prevalent.
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great articles and comments… learned some interesting stuff.. also learned that some are subjected to their prejudices, get over it accept your faith…yea i’m scilian and not european ..it’s all good. . .
It s funny how people speak just about sicilians regarding Italy and never about regions like trentino, veneto, friuli, lombardia, piemonte, val d aosta, toscana, emilia and so on. Are these italians less italians than those poor country men from sicily who emigrated in the U.S ? People probably not even notice north italians cause they are as white as closer northen countries…so who knows they are italians…if the mass is used to watch movies where italians are just mafia involved eating pasta coming from sicily and naple ahah. It s clear that that social class was in need to emigrate that time and I m talking about poor people working 15 hours per day under the sun, but Italy is just a bit more complex than some vulgar dark skinned and louder men, cause I feel lots of ignorants know just what the tv wants to show, while people who has some culture know well italans and italy. Of course nothing against black people but it s crazy how lots of american movies look for dark skin actors for playing italian characters and most of the times the production make these actors darker with make up or put the actor to have sun showers….or also…look for actors with italian lastname but with mixed roots, for example italian dad and mexican mother…or cuban, or brasilian and so on. By force these half italians are darker than how italians are, but what about of italians mixed with northen countries people? I won t say any names cause are too easy to remember for everybody talking about actors. What I want to say is that Italy is made of regions and every region is a whole world. Every region has its own history. The history of south italy is not more important than the history of north italy. Who s extra white we say they look like swedishs and who s brown we say they look arabs….but in both of cases we re speaking about minorities. If you want to see how typical italians are you ve to take some good books about art, literature and so on and see how different we always have been than some mixed blood from the south. I really don t get how a person with a 48% of dna from african stases may be considered italian!!!! It s an italian with african roots of course and by force is darker than an italian with italian roots. We have a long history, it s not just a matter of someone who s arrived here 200 or 100 or 50 years ago and is considered by the law an italian citzen. We are speaking about a typical italian and if we speak of that….a typical italian is not the one from the region of Trentino (pale)as is not the one from the region Sicily (dark skin)
I’m sorry but this is a very broad statement that does not apply to most Italians or even Sicilian Italians. It’s not racist, it is possible some may have Black African DNA but to say it’s substantial or even common just isn’t true. Berber and Arab DNA is common, but sub Saharan is not. I have taken a DNA test and I have 2% North African DNA, and the rest is Italian and middle eastern. This is not racist, I tend to like black people more than Arabs, but I’m not sure why certain websites of both black and white people try to claim ancestries they have little to do with historically. I see whites trying to claim Jesus and the Middle East all the time. Being that I’m half Jewish and half Italian I find it absurd. Jesus was a Mizrahi Jew and Italians and Sicilians are a mix of mostly Mediterranean people. It’s a simple truth and DNA shows this time and again. There were many amazing African cultures to be proud just as there were many amazing European ones. Both should stop trying to claim the Mediterranean. Mediterranean is a mix of North Africa, Southern Europe and the middle eastern Levant. It always has been.
I wrote a long comment about why this is crap and it’s gone. So I will sum it up. Why are white and black people always trying exclusively claim Mediterranean people? Italians who are dark may well have sub Saharan DNA but in all likelihood they mixed with North Africans and people from the Levant. It’s just a fact.
**Correction**
As a Sicilian I want to put in my two cents.
Although Sicily is the most conquered land in the world, it is a common misconception to classify Sicilians as being predominantly dark skinned. We have all kinds of different shades in Sicily, but we have a large amount of whites, my family for example, I have olive skinned to Lilly white relatives and from spending time in Sicily I have seen different shades also, the white part comes from the French, Norman (Originating from Scandinavia) and Lombard (Germanic).
But having said that, I celebrate our diversity, btw I have olive skin, but who cares, but to call all Southerners black comes out of ignorance and convenience, as stated before Northern Italian took advantage of that to make themselves seem superior, many have even changed their lastname when they reached the U.S.
As far as Northern Italians being racist towards Southern Italians, goes way back
The Northern Kingdom of Savoy in order to unify the whole peninsula created the myth by way of propaganda when the invaded the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies in 1860. Since the Duo Sicilian state was more advanced than the northern states and by far richer, they created a system that totally destroyed the way of life of the Southern Kingdom.
The first thing they did after the invasion was complete, they raided all the banks, taking 443.3 milion Lira to Turin (capital of the Kind of Savoy). At the time the kingdom of Sovoy’s was in debt up to its neck. That was only the beginning, because the few Duo-Sicilians that rebelled were classified as “Bandits” and hunted down till they were all gone and forgotten. They even had concentration camps all over the North for those that refused to submit or taken prisoners during the rebellion, one of which is now a museums where a so called scientist studied their sculls to prove that southerners were and inferior race, remind of something?
Btw, those sculls are still there, during they invasion and subsequent repression many towns were bombed and some town no longer exist, many thousands of innocent people were murdered. Why do you think that millions of southern Italians left to emigrate mostly to the U.S? There is much more but I can’t feel my fingers anymore. Things are not always as they seem.
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Don Jaide
Can I ask if by the way some of these southern italians ever migrated to Mexico ?I’m trying to find out some information on my last name ,which is Lomeli ,for years I have been told that it was italian.I’m just wondering,thank you so much.
Maybe . But southern italian for the most migrated in Usa or Canada . A part in Brasil and Argentina but for the most northern italian migrated in south america long before they started to migrate the Italians from the South.
OUT OF SICILY,,,,,,,,,,,, CAME ITALY, SPAIN AND REST OF EUROPE, THEN AMERICA,,,,,,,,,SO THEM IN CENTRAL AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA TO ARE FROM NOW SAY ITALIAN BLOOD!……………….
Anyway Lomeli is from north Italy .
Lomeli! I know several in Northern California who are from Mexico. Most had grandfathers who migrated from Italy because the weather was similar to where they were from in Italy.
Yes many Hispanics from Latin America have Italian DNA, and Italian names because Spain, Italy and Portugal are all part of the Holy Roman empire, which means many poor Italians especially from the south like Calabria,Sicily.Were free to travel and settle anywhere in Latin America,and many did just that.Im Puerto Rican and I recently took a DNA test and I was shocked to find high Italian DNA markers
I’m am pure wop south central and I’m in Canada now and they thought I was Mexican
No such thing as pure. I’m of Sicilian with egytian and middle eastern blood. Do a DNA test and let me know how pure you are.
Well, my Puerto Rican friend, regarding Puerto Rican genealogy, it was a time during the early 1800’s (Royal decree of Craces, 1851) when Spain’s Crown wanted to bring Europeans experienced developing and growing crops ( specifically coffee) in small islands to migrate to Puerto Rico. Since Corsiga climate is very similar to Puerto Rico.’s island climate, Corsigans joined the list of migrants. The result was the migration of people from Corsiga (in large numbers), but Mayorca and Minorca (Catalans) and even Spaniards from continental Spain and even Canary islanders made the trip too. There were even Germans and French people from Europe that made the trip to Puerto Rico due to this Royal decree. Land were given for free (land ownership for several decades) if land was cultivated. The Corsos (Corsiga) that are of Italian ancestry, were the most abundant migrant of all groups, so there is your Italian ancestry.
Surnames in PR such as Franceschi, Negroni, Paoli, Adriani, Agostini, Antonini, Bartoli, Casanova, Damiani, Romani, Rafaelli, Silvestrini, Silvagnoli, Veccini, Bracetti, Santoni, Vivaldi, Giovanetti, Giraldi, and thousand more…. are not Italian surnames but Corsigans and immigrated to Adjuntas, Yauco, Guayanilla, Guanica at that time to develop the coffee industry of the island in the 19th century via the Spanish Crown Royal Decree of Craces in 1815.
There was an Italian Community in Mexico, and it’s pretty significant. In fact, there was a Mexican price Fighter by the name of Arturo lomeli, exactly the same as yours. He lived in a community that was predominantly Italians, from Southern Italy
We have exactly the same blood. I had my DNA tested.
Yes they did. Italians did also emigrate to Mexico and other parts of Latin America, just not in historical numbers as they did in the U.S. The last name Lomeli is not as prevalent as Ramirez, Sanchez, Gomez, Ramirez, Rodriguez, etc., but it is more common than you may think. In fact all those last names typical to Mexicans are not Mexican last names, they are last names from Spanish ancestry. I only recently I discovered that my grandmother’s maiden name is Lomeli. She died several decades ago, she was the last grandparent that left this earth. For example the largest migration of Southern Italians was to Argentina, Uruguay, and other parts of South American right after WWII. Sadly, many of the Argentinians of Italian ancestry are quick at claiming white race and therefore superior to other Latin American people. Their reputation as racist to their fellow Latin American people from other countries is very well known around the world. They blatantly call other Latin Americans “indios” & “negros.” Many of those “white” Argentinians of Italian ancestry tend to be very racist towards Mexicans. Any one see the news video of the Argentinian flipping over the food cart from the Mexican immigrant here in Los Angeles? A good friend of mines is Argentino. We have gotten into problems due to his blatant racism, which bothers me. I’ve only recently started talking to him again after almost a year from distancing myself from him, after some racist sentiments he expressed to me. I’m aware of the history of Northern Italians being racist toward Southern Italians. I know the history of the racism that Italian immigrant and Italian-Americans suffered. I point it out to him when he’s racist towards other groups, never to their face of course. But what can I expect from my friend when his own father refers to Hispanics as “indios” & blacks as “negros.” If you’re Latino you know when the word “negro” is used as a racial description or in racist form. Just to clarify, I’m not saying that all “white” Argentinos from Italian ancestry are racist. It is my experience that far too many are. There are also video on youtube in which they speak well of the Mexican people and visa-versa.
Look at the chipileños of Puebla
Yes they did. This is part of what makes Mexico so great~! Ole!
Settle down Tom Filingeri! You appear to be in denial to the point of not seeing the forest for the trees. The hostilities you yourself described and actions of those from the north against those to the south where people are known to be of darker complection is how racist white react to black people. You might consider your complection olive but to man white you are “black”! Most of those Italians who fled to the U.S. intermarried with whites and other light skinned non-whites and their childrens are very comfortable with being identified as white. It was not the writers intent to convince you that you are black but to inform you of what was vs what is. I think they’ve done a surperb job because I too remember when Italians were not white back in the 50’s in my native city of New Orleans. Allen
When I was a kid here in good old Mississippi I was always told to check other on the census square. lol. Now I’m white.
Same thing for Hispanics, we are supposed to check the race box for White/Caucasian not only on the U.S. Census but on the university application. I left the race question blank. The next census is supposed to be more diverse in the questions about race, ethnicity, and nationality. Was it nationality also? Oh well I don’t quite remember. I’m assuming many “minorities” left these questions blank or check marked the box for other. In reality we are not who we think we are. All those rumors passed on from generation to generation about our family ancestry may all just be a ferry tale. I recommend watching Finding Your Roots on PBS with Henry Louis Gates Jr. All his guests are shocked on their DNA results for their family blood line. If we all had our ancestry DNA tested also, we would be just as shocked to find out how diverse each one of our race is. Which makes racism all that more stupid.
Who really cares. I’m dark really dark and as far as the census goes I’m white. Why are people so much infatuated with skin color ?
Because people , especially dark skinned people, always remind everybody theyre different while claiming they just want to be treated equally…so how are white people suppose to act like color doesn’t matter when they keep being reminded about their white privilege?
Exactly! Me thinks he doesth protest too much lol
There is a difference between definitions in the Sothern US and the Northern US. Both my Parents were pure Italian decent My mother’s side of the family are Sicilian and are not dark skinned at all. My father’s side his mother was from Naples, and his father was from Calabria. My father was so light skinned he never tanned, he would get red and burn in the sun. I myself have freckles all across my back. In any case my birth certificate (I was born in the Bronx, NY) lists both my parents as white and they were born here in late 1920, and early 1930. So what was going on in the south was not going on here. Watch any old movie from the period and Cops in NY were either Italian or Irish, and Italian and Irish in NY often intermarried, as unlike the English both were catholic.
Where do you think the “black part came from” since you only mentioned the “white”?
Africa is vary close to Sicily. At one point in history Carthage conquered Sicily
Italy is mixed with all races look at the geografics of it it’s open all around we mixed with everyone
And Persia dominated Sicily, too ( as did Vikings and Spaniards and French and German and tribes). Sicilians would be surprised at how much Arab blood flows through their veins.
I am Sicilian, have tan skin. Live in the South, and identify as Latino. Really much because people are always asking me where I am from. In Europe people assume I’m Northern African/Arab or Italian. Here they assume I am some sort of Latino Brazilian or Cuban. I cannot relate to the Southern White Anglo Saxon way of living. I just do not identify with that. I have done the DNA testing and my Sicilian ancestry has about 15% Northern African in my veins. My family is from a major fishing port right across from Tunis. It’s obvious. My last name is significant for the fact my family must originate also in Spain. I was deemed to have 2% spanish dna
Very true. I took two DNA test. My great grandma was full Sicilian and her parents cam to America from Palermo Sicily in the early 1900s. Well my test for some odd reason did not show Italy in it. Like nothing…but my aunt took it and she had a huge percentage of Italy. I did have a huge percent of Balkan, Iberian Peninsula and a small percentage of Arab. .even though the Balkan was conquered by the Ottoman and Byzantine Empire at one time. Armenia is also in the Balkan area as well. But yes a lot of South Italians have North African and Arab blood. I had both in one test and Arab in another. Also North Africa were more Arab looking… look at the Berber (Amazigh) people, they arent fair, yet arent black. My great great grandparents looked very Berber and Arab, though I traced them to 1600s still in Sicily. I am hoping to finally solve where they came from in the beginning.
Not they wouldn’t be surprised, they are actually quite aware of their history. That they admit it is a whole other story.
You are correct. I recently had my DNA checked to find out I have a lot of Egyptian and middle eastern blood. I’m pretty dark and was always told it was the sicilian blood.
In my experience ‘white’ Sicilians are concentrated in the far north-west of Sicily, around Palermo and Trapani. The rest of Sicily is olive/brown skinned.
That’s not correct. My grandfather was milky white with blue eyes and he was from southern Sicily There is a mixture all over Sicily and Calabria.
Not true. My great great grandparents were from Palermo and they look very olive skinned. Even me who has a good chunk of Irish DNA as well as Sicilian, look very Mediterranean. The “white” Italians were more up in Rome and Vince. The dark skinned and Arab were in Sicily. That whole island is very Mediterranean looking. I knew a girl with a huge percentage of North Italian and she looked very white. I am south Italian and look Mediterranean. Because north Italy was near the Germanic and celts while south Italy was near Muslim ruling countries of North Africa. In fact Sicily was under Muslim rule at one time.
And also the reason why the black blood is so prevalent amongst Italians is because an African invasion of Africans on elepant that at the same time rape the women of certain regions for revenge. And all whites have some black blood due to migration from Africa. All life begin in Africa. Europeans got their education from black scholar in Africa. Because before there were whites there were blacks. We all are created equal according to the red blood of God, which he so kindly spoke the word: “BE”! And so it is.
Exactly, the Moors. The Moors were the complexion of Ethopians s very dark Olive Complexion, Tgat is why in the movie Robin Hood with Kevin Cisneros tgey choose Morgan Freeman to play tge moor. Tgey called him tge painted man but he still did not pullf tgat deep olive compkexion. He comes close but the Olive complexion on those days were much darker. The Greeks and the Egyptians were this complexion at one time. History tells you pretty much at one time race mixing was thing to do. The Moors conquered Europe tge Romans conquered parts of Africa. Look at tge Ethopians most of them are mixed with Italian and are much lighter then the ancients. If every one had a DNA test all of tge racism would stop. During the tune of the Moor in Europe you had to be of tge black race to be royalty. The Jews and Christians ran most of Moors out and tried to erase them from history. Knowing your history is so important if you know your history and open open your eyes and heat to it you will know the truth and Cynthia I see that you know history
Exactly, the Moors. The Moors were the complexion of Ethopians s very dark Olive Complexion, Tgat is why in the movie Robin Hood with Kevin Cisneros tgey choose Morgan Freeman to play tge moor. Tgey called him tge painted man but he still did not pullf tgat deep olive compkexion. He comes close but the Olive complexion on those days were much darker. The Greeks and the Egyptians were this complexion at one time. History tells you pretty much at one time race mixing was thing to do. The Moors conquered Europe tge Romans conquered parts of Africa. Look at tge Ethopians most of them are mixed with Italian and are much lighter then the ancients. If every one had a DNA test all of tge racism would stop. During the tune of the Moor in Europe you had to be of tge black race to be royalty. The Jews and Christians ran most of Moors out and tried to erase them from history. Knowing your history is so important if you know your history and open open your eyes and heat to it you will know the truth and Cynthia I see that you know history
I had my DNA tested. Interestingly enough I had no African blood, except <1% from the Benin/Togo area on the middle eastern coast of Africa. My father was Sicilian, and my mother was mainly from the British Isles. They married in 1954.
Heredity is so interesting..
Um, the Benin/Togo area, is on the west cost of Africa.
this is so true Cynthia. And also Anibal invaded Sicily too for about 300 years they settled there.
now i see why most italian women are so hot and sexy. It’s because of the the mixture.
How can an elephant climb the hills of Italy. Hanobul conquered northern Italy in th Alps. Not Sicily or Calabria
Also they elephants would not be able to survive the Alps!
But they did! A lot of them died but they did make it over the Alps.
Mammoths is what they used
Huh ???? Lol please read a little more history.
Most Italians immigrated to Latin America then the U.S. Most hispanics have Italian DNA from the Italian diaspora
Tom Fillingeri
You wrote, “We have all kinds of different shades in Sicily, but we have a large amount of whites, my family for example, I have olive skinned to Lilly white relatives and from spending time in Sicily I have seen different shades also, the white part comes from the French, Norman (Originating from Scandinavia) and Lombard (Germanic).”
What exactly do you mean by OLIVE SKIN?
The color of an olive is an indication of its ripeness. Green olives ripen and become black olives. Or rather, they transform from green to light-brown, to a vibrant red and purple, to the deepest, darkest black. In general, the darker the olive, the riper it was when it was plucked from the tree.
From the foregoing, you can say that olives generally go from GREEN to BLACK. There is no such thing as a red-colored, green-colored or purple-colored human being. The so-called “red” Indians are not red at all. Or, are they? Heck, I live in the USA and have never seen a red Indian. So if you’re olive-colored, you can either be green or black. And, since we don’t have green-colored humans, you’re, therefore, a black man.
Embrace your blackness, brother.
OLIVES IN COLOR: http://www.superfoods-for-superhealth.com/health-benefits-of-olives.html
Also, remember that Italy was once the domain of the black man. Black people were the first to live in ALL of modern day Italy, not just the southern parts. For instance, the father of Italian renaissance, Ludovico Sforza, was a black man. He was also the Duke of Milan in northern Italy.
LUDOVICO SFORZA and his wife, MARIA TESTONE: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154031863882436&set=pb.519477435.-2207520000.1476135915.&type=3&theater
THE MEDICIS WERE BLACKS, TOO:
1. COSIMO III MEDICI: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153449833557436&set=pb.519477435.-2207520000.1476136908.&type=3&theater
2. ALLESANDRO DE MEDICI: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153434924322436&set=pb.519477435.-2207520000.1476136931.&type=3&theater
3. COSIMO I DE MEDICI: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153434886197436&set=p.10153434886197436&type=3&theater
COLUCCIO SALUTATI, FATHER OF ITALIAN HUMANISM WAS A BLACK MAN: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153945582867436&set=pb.519477435.-2207520000.1476136113.&type=3&theater
Olive skin – like olive oil.
Yes is true!! I think olive skin is hot and sexy!!!!!!??
I like to take sun!!! I have olive skin I love going to the beach with my bikini we are in 2016 BROS!! I live in Venice beach California. We are not living 300 years ago now dark is sexy, rich, amazing!!!!! I AM FABULOUS I feel so sad for the people who stay inside of the house just to don’t get dark:( I LOVE MIAMI GREECE JAMAICA THE AMAZON De PERU TURKEY PHILIPPINES etc anywhere that is HOT!!!
Great reply , I am from the south of Italy ,I have olive skin with blue green eyes and dark blond hair , we are full of flavor !!!! Emanuela ( ombracolorata@icloud.com)
I’m was born south central Italy I live in North America now I can easily pass for a Latino many times people thought I was from South America
Whoever wrote this article they do not know their history. Sicilians are dark-skinned because of Hannibal from Africa and his army took over Italy and had sex with Italian women that’s why they’re dark-skinned
What the fuck? Southern Italian go from being considered Black to white?? Now, I know our southerners are not the best intellectuals among us, Southern Italians on average tend to be darker than Northerners! But these shit-kicking, red-neck, Hillbillies can’t tell the difference, say, from a guy who looks like me and a Black man? I think those incestuous morons in the South!! – are proof that you can be a blond blue eyed idiotic Neanderthal!!
What colour are olives? They are either green or black!??
And i have never known of any green pigmented people.
Or brown. Olives become Brown before it does black.
What stumps me in this world is everybody wants to be so politically correct on their so-called color(race) but if you look in a crayon box you will never match up to what Society classify you as. Even the Caucasians that classifies them selfs as so-called White’s.
So let’s do some real history the most high said there’s one race in that is the human race who he has created, in terms of color you either have very low to no melanin or very high an abundance of melanin what that in terms to color. The very low to no melanin is considered so-called Whites and a very high abundance of melanin is considered so-called blacks, and you have every shade in and between (brown).
Ps: until we all come together as one race , as it should be and lay ignorance aside an adopt wisdom, knowledge and Truth then and only then, We would not be our own down fall.
Royalty…………
I am Sicilian American, olive skinned, brunette, brown eyes. I am not that dark as many in my family nor as light as others. I moved from NY to NC. I lost count of how many times I have been asked about my race, by Southerners, Native Americans, and Latinos. They say they are perplexed. I think it’s hilarious. One old man actually told me that I spoke English well. LOL. I was born in the US. I don’t have an accent. It’s crazy how much people concern themselves with race. –my husband is from Sicily. I have a daughter with milk white raspberry skin. And my son looks like he is from Pakistan or the Middle Eastern. In fact, people we don’t know in the south have screamed at him for being a Muslim terrorist. It’s gotten pretty scary at times.
Everybody has an accent including you, and I say it in a polite way so please don’t be offended. Various things determine ones accent, not just race, which I won’t get into. I get a smile when someone describes to me that they don’t have an accent. Or they say that this other person doesn’t have an accent. Remember Donald Trump telling a Latino border patrol officer that he speaks perfect English? It left many people wondering what did he mean. Did he mean the officer had no accent? Did the officer speak eloquently? I’m also an American with a formal education but some different background than yours. I speak well but since we come from different backgrounds, I’m sure we both speak somewhat differently. It’s called an accent. Which is determined by various factors other than race; even within the many caucasian groups here in the U.S.
You are correct in every way I am of sicilian-italian and german descent my mother is sicilian and my father is italian and german …I have done so much research in the last year of the history
Italians were called Moors and they were Black upon the arrival of Whites who stole their History. The Moors are the ones who gave White Albinos the map of the World, then conquered the entire Planet Earth with the use of Guns ! You see Whites are Cowards with Guns and Diseases that one one else had ! Thieves.
The Whole World consisted of the Black Race thousands of Years before Whites. The First Civilizations on Planet Earth Were Built By Peoples of Color, that’s a Fact !
Thank you for clarifying this for us Sicilians African Americans think they had it bad but so did we and sometimes still do. I’m from New Jersey and as a child was discriminated by my elementary school teachers and classmates because I was a second generation Italian. Sicilian and Calabrese. My high school friend whose mother was German / English was very racial and would not allow in their swimming pool.
African Americans don’t believe they are the only one who had it bad. African Americans had it worse and that treatment continues today. When you have Italian Americans who once were discriminated against themselves. Travel to New York and you will witness same individuals are racist and prejudiced towards people of color.
Y’all hate to be associated with being black, when Jesus come back black please please don’t try to claim black then…. Look at you trying to justify Lol
All of us ain’t niggas… lol??? Know your history… go to the library do some research and get ready for even a ruder awakening… Ya’ll asses was black as me back in the day; it wasn’t until y’all start intermarrying with the whites and your true color got whited out like the Brazilians, Australians, Mexicans, Egyptians all over this planet… this has been your agenda to wipe us out. God just made us fruitful and multipled us the more you try to commit genocide.. Your 2 cents don’t change your ancestry
I know you don’t want to be associated with black, I sure hate it for you but you are… EMBRACE YOUR HISTORY !!!
I am sicilian and calabrian i have hair like an african american why?
Now that we know that you can read wikipedia, please tell me what that rant of history has to do with hue. You proudly state that you are olive skinned like three times. Fact: most sicilians are dark with coarse and curly hair . A throwback from moorish times. Black is beautiful honey. I am living proof.
Please tell me more? I am very interested.
My grandparents both came to US from Italy. In 1930s my grandfather left Calabria @ 12yrs old, for Argentina. He lived with some family learning how to stitch by hand. He lived there until had the skills to come to the US in 1940s/50s, and became a tailor in Brooklyn.
My family passed away young, I’ve always wondered why would @ 12, you go across the world just to learn a trade? Is there a lot of other Italians that went to Argentina?
Knowledge is Power.I have Olive Skin A MOOR.
The moors were of black and a you European mixture just like the Arabs and Egyptians. The original Moors were the color of the Ethopians and do to race mixing that deep dark Olive turned to a lighter olive. The race mixing is mentioned thru the history book. Back then Moors Conquered Europe and then the Roman’s conquered different parts of Africa a lot of race mixing happened a DNA test will prove it. We are all mixed. There is only the human race
They still were Peoples of Colors not White.
Even Brazil didn’t want to let southern Italians immigrate because too dark and difficult to integrate (they invited lots of northern Italians to come over).
A lot of southern italian migrated to Brasil too . Black southern italian are only a stereotype . Most of southern italian look like Sophia Loren (Naples),Dean Martin (Naples) , Frank Sinatra (Sicily) , Elvis Presley (Sicily) , Nicolas Chage (Basilicata)
Elvis Presley was not Sicilian.
Elvis was not Italian, but Scottish/Irish and Scottish/German.
Elvis looks part native american
Hahahaha! A fan who knows nothing.