There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred as early as 1630 in Scotland.
According to the Egerton manuscript, British Museum, the enactment of 1652: it may be lawful for two or more justices of peace within any county, citty or towne, corporate belonging to the commonwealth to from tyme to tyme by warrant cause to be apprehended, seized on and detained all and every person or persons that shall be found begging and vagrant.. in any towne, parish or place to be conveyed into the Port of London, or unto any other port from where such person or persons may be shipped into a forraign collonie or plantation.
The judges of Edinburgh Scotland during the years 1662-1665 ordered the enslavement and shipment to the colonies a large number of rogues and others who made life unpleasant for the British upper class. (Register for the Privy Council of Scotland, third series, vol. 1, p 181, vol. 2, p 101).
The above accounting sounds horrific but slavery was what the Scots have survived for a thousand years. The early ancestors of the Scots, Alba and Pics were enslaved as early as the first century BC. Varro, a Roman philosopher stated in his agricultural manuscripts that white slaves were only things with a voice or instrumenti vocali. Julius Caesar enslaves as many as one million whites from Gaul. (William D Phillips, Jr. SLAVERY FROM ROMAN TIMES TO EARLY TRANSATLANTIC TRADE, p. 18).
Pope Gregory in the sixth century first witnessed blonde hair, blue eyed boys awaiting sale in a Roman slave market. The Romans enslaved thousands of white inhabitants of Great Britain, who were also known as Angles. Pope Gregory was very interested in the looks of these boys therefore asking their origin. He was told they were Angles from Briton. Gregory stated, “Non Angli, sed Angeli.” (Not Angles but Angels).
The eighth to the eleventh centuries proved to be very profitable for Rouen France. Rouen was the transfer point of Irish and Flemish slaves to the Arabian nations. The early centuries AD the Scottish were known as Irish. William Phillips on page 63 states that the major component of slave trade in the eleventh century were the Vikings. They spirited many ‘Irish’ to Spain, Scandinavia and Russia. Legends have it; some ‘Irish’ may have been taken as far as Constantinople.
Ruth Mazo Karras wrote in her book, “SLAVERY AND SOCIETY IN MEDEIVEL SCANDINAVIA” pg. 49; Norwegian Vikings made slave raids not only against the Irish and Scots (who were often called Irish in Norse sources) but also against Norse settlers in Ireland or Scottish Isles or even in Norway itself…slave trading was a major commercial activity of the Viking Age. The children of the White slaves in Iceland were routinely murdered en masse. (Karras pg 52)
According to these resources as well as many more, the Scots-Irish have been enslaved longer than any other race in the world’s history. Most governments do not teach White Slavery in their World History classes. Children of modern times are only taught about the African slave trade.
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Read more @: http://www.fsos.com/Hist%20PDFS/whiteslave.pdf
Now I understand why my “English” anscestors were upset when some married “Irish.” I always thought it was just the religious differences. I had heard of Irish slavery from my mother, who’s descendents were Irish, but never saw anything in writing before. I really appreciate this. I am all for knowledge, and have compassion for the African slaves, but wish this info was made widely available, so all people could see that skin colour and station in life are not related. So often I am embarrassed to BE white; I want to say “I would never treat anyone better or worse based on skin colour” but it’s a slow process.
I have compassion for slaves of any race as well but I have a problem with the constant repetition of African slavery/suffering in the media, with little or no mention of the many Irish/Scottish/White slaves who suffered even higher mortality rates.
Don’t blame blacks for it though, it’s not like they dominate the media or anything.
Your privilege is showing.
Why should you be embarrassed to be white, stop listening to propaganda from the left.
What’s problematic with you white guys is this need to be a victim. There were never any white “slaves”. That’s the lie you want told. The truth is you were indentured servants. Contract signed and honored.
End of story.
What you’re doing is positioning yourselves in case Black Americans manage to negotiate reparations.
Greed. That is your game.
“Contract signed and honored.”?
. . . . the children, too?
Deny what you will Rhondayes, but; facts are facts. My family are Scottish and I now live in America. I seek nothing from no man that I, myself, have not earned by the sweat of my brow and the determination of my mind. I will never relinquish, to any woman or man, that which I have earned. I never owned a slave of any color. My ancestors have never owned slaves but have, themselves, been slaves and I seek nothing from anyone because, this was not the fault of anyone who lives and walks this world today. You blame Whites for greed and you ignore history. You hold out your hand for Reparations in hopes that you can profit from the dogged labor and maltreatment of your ancestors and you have the audacity to call anyone greedy??? Look into your mirror. See there the one who seeks blood money. You have earned nothing. Indentured servants? Do you honestly believe that the British elite would have a street vagrant, a beggar serving their guests? Responding with a thick Scottish or Irish brogue? You are a racist. I am certain you call yourself a Christian, but; not on this day nor til that day when you find forgiveness in your heart. After-all, that is the only way to true salvation. I have forgiven all who mistreated my ancestors because I how am I to carry this burden of ignorance to their identity? There is evil and good in all. Deliver that which you hope to receive. Blessed day upon thee.
please remember that black slaves were owned throughout generations. there was no hope or posibility of freedom. White indentured slaves were workers working off a debt then reintroduced back into society. Lets not look at the past but the present. Do you remember the crack epidemic during the regan years. Crack was shipped into los angeles and everyone was rounded up as the worst criminals alive. Dare! Automatice mandatory max sentences. Fast forward to the present time and this meth and opioid epidemic is hitting middle america, trailer parks, and rich gated communities. Where is the same sentencing for opioids as crack? Why do we now have to help these drug addicts with tax dollars and rehab centers instead of loking them up for max sentences?
That is incorrect. Blacks slaves could buy their own freedom. Most black slaves were allowed to grow produce after chores or make craft’s and sell them roadside. Indentured servitude enslaved generations. Freedom could not be bought.
Because the prison system is the new slavery 2.0
I understand that you were taught that in school, but you aren’t in school any more. Try learning some real history. There were white slaves, not just indentured servants as you were taught. If you want a good place to start, try looking up the history of the Macgregors, and proscription. It was against the law to even be a MacGregor. Men were killed, women, were branded and sold as slaves. Children were either sold with the mothers, or often had their children taken and given to other families.
Thank you, ignorance is truly bliss to some people.
White slavery what a joke, you people love to lie. The point is you can run but you can’t hide from your wicked past.
The word of TMH sets the record straight on who he scattered across the four corners of the earth as slaves, for breaking his laws!
We are the children of the book we call the bible, the holy scriptures of TMH.
That was an awesome reply Brother
As ancestor of Irish who have not only been enslaved, but intentionally starved, brutalized and beaten out of existance…nearly. And you have the audacity to refer to these facts as a need to feel victimhood?
Thus, don’t expect empathy from me for your perceived injustices.
You really don’t know history, but if it moves you to investigate what went on in europe for 1,000 years that would be a good thing.
Lets start with the word slave – comes from Slav peoples of Eastern Europe who were sold as SLAVES by Vikings, along with Scots and Irish descendents among many others. Celtic mines in Scandinavia over 3,000 years old also have the bones of ‘white’ slaves in them. Slavery didn’t start with Americas it didn’t even start with the Vikings it has been with us as long as humanity has and all people have been slaves.
Explain to me why my Scottish ancestors were evicted from THEIR OWN LAND and forced to immigrate to America.
Britain stole land from my people, enslaved us, destroyed our culture, forced us to give up our language for English, routinely starved us, etc. We were even sold as slaves in North Africa and Arabia HUNDREDS of years before England colonized America.
What the British did in the British isles was inhuman. Stop acting as if you’re the only group of people to have suffered at the hands of another country.
indentured servitude was created because slavery was then illegal, but before then during the grey times (a scots gaelic term) they bound them in chains then packed into hulls and on the trip to the americas top up with irish, the muslims were the ones who spread the culture,, As the iberians after 900yrs of constant slave raids changed from coastal living to more fortified mountainous dwelling in response this forced Muslims to raid more eastern European countries Bulgaria Romania Ukraine etc etc the massive influx of latest white slaves meant an eventual linguistic name change hence Slavic became equal to slave which is the root of the word’s origin, History is important to understand the present, more than skin color as 25% of freed black slaves later owned slaves i’d be wary of talk about reparations , which is a Marxist mantra loved by the millennial americans today, an old european ploy used in the 70’s by the bourgeoisie. or as most working people referred to the student class. spawn , the slave block exists today in Africa deal with that injustice instead of a selected historical period to justify hatred and prejudice on the basis of skin color
The first thing everybody needs to understand is who the major players in the slave trade were. These people have been trying to create their “Israel” for many years, with slaves and all. Read a book by Professor Thomas Sowel called “black rednecks and white liberals”, and there is also Dr Tony Martin who has had personal experiences with these people when he tried to teach the real history of the slave trade to his students. You must keep in mind that no Jew considers themselves white, until it serves their agenda, you see it on Twitter and other social media platforms all the time and in the jewish newspaper articles where they admit thatthey are NOT white, but pretend to be, only when it suites their purposes in cases where they are being horribly racist, apologists and “self hating” white, etc. These people created communism, liberalism, socialism the feminist movement, BLM, KKK, ANC,LGBT, etc, the list is endless. This hatred for any who are not Jewish goes back millennia. They created the word “racist”, the entire racial tensions and myth that whi are racist and hate all POC was created by the Jews to serve their agenda.
They especially hate white christians becuae theyput a stop to their plans r an Israel in america All this years ago.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu0vQrZbhQo
And they run Hollywood, that is how the sell thier propaganda to the masses.
indentured… hmmm…
I guess raping our mothers and daughters, taking our land, taking our produce, our clothes, tartan, our money, our history and even our name was “indentured”. The continual Perpetuation of Debt to the monarchy is “the lease of Freedom” I guess the starvation, rape and death were just part of clauses in the agreement?
Actually I have the ships manifest and the bill of sale where my anester was sold into slavery and lived for 3 generations on elm st City of New York. Ppshhhasshh there is no exclusivity if bondage.
Can I get a copy of the ship’s manifest. Damn interesting! Thanks.
Here’s a Scottish name for you
Douglas Stewart White.
I believe the many colored names for scots came from the quick names slaves were given for sale.
Thoughts from a true racist! Not to mention closed minded as well.
Indentured servants only live apporox 7 years once sentenced to work off their debt to society.
Take the time to educate yourself , especially the history of Saint Augustine Florida when the Spanish founded it.
Every creed or color was part of endentured servitude with a life span of only 7 years.
TRANSPORTED JACOBITE REBELS, 1716
Among the persons transported to the American colonies in 1716 were 637 Scottish rebels captured at Preston, Lancashire, on 14 Nov 1715.The rebels were supporters of the exiled James II of England and his heirs.There were many such adherents among the Roman Catholics of Scotland, and some in Ireland, and among the Nonjurors, a dissident group within the Church of England.
During the rebellion of 1715 the rebel forces entered Preston on 9 Nov and, after proclaiming as their king the chevalier of St. George, remained there for several days, during which the government forces advanced upon them.The town was assaulted, and on 14 Nov the rebel general Thomas FORSTER surrendered his army to the King’s forces.Persons shown below, was compiled from ten ship manifests, were taken prisoner and sent to the American Colonies the following spring as indentured servants for a seven-year period.Those who refused to be voluntarily indentured were forced into that condition upon arrival in the colonies.
According to a receipt given to the commissary general of the rebel prisoners, 639 prisoners were transported, but, for reasons unknown to this writer, only 636 were named in the manifest. An additional prisoner (John DALZYEL) has been identified from other documents.
In the interest of space conservation, ship names and destinations have been coded.It should be noted that not all prisoners reached the destinations originally designated.
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TOO funny, little one. There was NEVER negro slave. That’s a lie perpetrated by negroes with NO historic evidence to back it.
Shut the fuck up you black c….(edited for foul language) scotland has been enslaved by the English for over 300 year still is to this day even tho a majority of scotland wants independence theres always a fraudulent referendum where scotland looses… We can loose our shackles unlike you ….. fucktards!
Ignorant American,keep you’re race driven arguments to yourselves,there where Irish and Scottish slaves for a thousand years before there was indentured servitude,that was the brainchild of the English and they where sent of to the colonies to work and die in horrific conditions,white Americans may play the victim card but I can assure you the people of Scotland and Ireland have been oppressed in one form or another for over a millenium,that’s the problem with group think everybody is placed in a neat little pile of good and bad,try treating people on an individual basis and your arrogance and prejudice won’t trip you up.p.s all Americans are overly privileged,black Americans have a lot of catching up but I am sure now with opportunity almost equal their star will rise.
As a descendent of Irish and Scottish Clansmen, There were direct mistreatment of my family including the striping of land, name, tartan and possessions. This was long prior african slave trade and is a continually an ignored injustice of the Celtic Pagan people.
The Lord our family served was in fact a POC and there was only really CLASS and Religious basis for discrimination in England and British Isles at that time.
Romans imported a lot of their residencies of european territories which also included their Asian, Middle Eastern, African and Europe boarder residents so Different Colour Skin was not a new concept. People were just people unless they were any way heretics aka “Pagan” (Celts, Nordics, etc.) who were heavily discriminated against and mostly killed if they would not convert.
The Irish are still discriminated against via EU rulings and their ignored voter base to this DAY!
People want to cry about over 1000 years of slavery in Eastern and Middle European and Asian practice (which only took a part of 2/300 years in western history) in which these slaves were used as a bargaining chip or token of peace for the WESTERN WORLD and at the time it was seen as an act of war not to take up these tokens – no matter the injustice on our perspective. You must be proud and never forget that the WESTERN WORLD was the only part of the world which instigated slavery to cease.
My Family has clear mistreatment by the monarchy and, Up until the point we were taken as slaves, have had our history and work erased in favour of a LORD who inherited our families daughters, possessions and land. Our Debt to the monarchy still perpetuates and this is widely ignored because of the colour of our skin as we are not POC.
I am often debated about this point, but the mass amount of POC brought over during the slave trade where given up by their owners in their native country. The people who accepted offer felt that life will only get better for these individuals in America/Britian/France etc. as they were suffering malnutrition and illnesses from dirty water and terrible living conditions. The Slave conditions were replicated from africa but with minor improvments to help these people feel comfort but not feel to different from their known way of life and homes.
Racism is an individualistic prejudice and judgement. If the system is racially systemic then the lowest hold would be that of a Pagan Celt – with continuous ignorance on their heritage and history, dispossession of family, possessions and land as well as general and continual discrimination of their religion and culture.
Keep ignoring history and the truth, and it will surely repeat.
Please give an the meaning of the term ulta left wing progressive.
Embarrassed to be white? Really?
Another ultra left wing progressive who vomits politically correct verbiage. Wake up!
Slavery exists today and is still pursued with many youngsters being sold in North Africa who have been removed from the family environment.
The repeal of slavery act was only made law in 1995 by the English Government!
American Government will never acknowledge Scottish/Irish slavery
It is not taught in schools, it has been erased from our history
Because it takes away from “black history”
somehow, negro enslaved is worse than white enslaved.
I am a descendant of a Jacobite Rebel , my ancestor was sent on a slave ship in 1715 to arrive in America colonies, sold as a slave.
He died by age 30.
This is definitely an eye opener. We are all aware of the atrocities of the the Black Slave Trade and the effects are still seen today. But very few are are aware of the European slave trade. As an African-American, I think it’s high time we as all people start learning the full truth. We have been lied to and deceived on a monumental level. We are all connected and share a common thread (which explains why my paternal grandmother (PBUH) had a Scottish and Ancestry). I am always seeking the truth and I hope this important piece of history is spread and to told to the masses. The The Elite have been using the ‘Divide and Conquer’ scheme for far too long. The more we learn, the more we should use this as a tool to stop the madness, separation, violence and ill will towards each other. Knowledge is truly key and crucial if we are to break the bonds of ignorance, stupidity and bigotry.
i have for years been looking to find how my scottish and irish family ended up in jamaica, is a list of people passengers available for that time thank you
We find that we too have connections in Jamaica. One distant relative was evidently involved in the abduction of ‘slaves’ from Scotland. another Alexander Forbes has a Jamaican address – died pre 1821 – no known birthdate. His address is given as Salt Pond Hut Jamaica.
Any thing you have would be welcome.
My family is Jamaican the most I know is that I had a Scottish slavemaster and possible crossbreeding took place. Genetic or DNA testing may help find my roots
I believe that Salt Pond Hut was in the parish of St. Catherine, Jamaica.
This reference may be to your Alexander Forbes: Trustees for Alexander Forbes held Aberdeen estate in St Elizabeth 1772-1782. Alexander Forbes ‘of Scotland’ had reportedly previously leased Aberdeen from Alexander McFarlane’s Island estate, ‘and [the estate] still belonged to an Alexander Forbes as a slave-and-sugar estate in 1772’. Neither man (if different) has yet been identified further, but either or both might be Alexander Forbes of Kingston (q.v.).
SOURCE: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146648447
If you have not yet done so, you may be interested in doing a DNA test to find further connections.
Jamaica the island, or Jamaica-Queens?
You will not likely find a ship manifest for that time period as they were not standardized at that time.
Stop being a dupe. Trying to fit in will always leave you behind.
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“What’s problematic with you white guys is this need to be a victim. There were never any white “slaves”. That’s the lie you want told. The truth is you were indentured servants. Contract signed and honored.
End of story.
What you’re doing is positioning yourselves in case Black Americans manage to negotiate reparations.
Greed. That is your game.”
Oquendo Jones you are so right finally someone who knows the truth and doesn’t look to make up excuses. We all have family that have suffered over history. My Family were Scottish and some Irish as well. And I know for a fact through my family tree some fought in the revolutionary war. And color was not an issue when we fought the British.
Oquendo Jones, all I can say is thank you. There are not many voices of reason any longer. Everyones minds have been brainwashed for way to long. Lies are kept going to keep us all fighting and seperated yet for hundreds of years people continue to fall for them. When will people learn that keeping racism alive and well is very profitable in the pockets of some? They use it as a form of control and people swallow it, they are chocking to death and fail to see it.
This would explain a lot about my mother’s side (Scot-Irish). Noone has ever found out how they got here. They just seem to always have been. Reading this makes me wonder.
Indentured servants with a contract. Or, the ones dumped from Britain’s most notorious jails and Insane Asylums. Britain dumped all of the criminals and prostitutes from their wharves and sent them all to America and New Zealand. This is how we’ve ended up with so many undercover thieves, rapists, serial killers, and home murderers. America received Britain’s worst. America’s link to Britain’s royal past makes sure to keep themselves away from the sharecropper’s descendants.
No one was sent to New Zealand. I think you are mixing this up with Australia. There were NO penal colonies in New Zealand.
those that were brought from England were not from the insane asylums as you have implied. Many of the Jacobite’s were forced to sign indentured papers or face quartering and hanging. you also need to read “White Cargo” by Don Jordan and Michael Walsh”; this talks about White Slavery especially of the Scottish, Irish and English. Read it. You can find it on the internet.
Not so to become indentured all you had to do was not be able to pay bills. Or had some trumped up charge by someone in power to be so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm
My ancestor was brought to this country and sold into slavery along with his three brothers. They came over in chains along with others Scots aboard the John and Sarah and sold at auction. They were part of the 10,000 Scots who surrendered at the Battle of Worcestor England in 1651. Cromwell sold all 10,000 into slavery in the Americas and the Barbados. Many of these Scots were bought by highlanders here and freed. Others ran away to the American frontier, and some even made it back to Scotland.The unlucky ones endured the same treatment as other American slaves. I have two degrees in history as well as other degrees in education. I always tell my students that if they take anything away with them from my class it should be that history lies. All history is politicaly based. To find the truth takes work and time. Oh so much time. The truth is different to different peoples. Being good or bad is not contained in one country, race, religion, or ethnic group. Good is everywhere as is being bad. America tries to be good and we are. America can and has been bad. We are not perfect nor should we expect perfection. Our worth however will be judged in how vigourous we seek perfection even though it s attainment is beyond our grasp.
^^Word!
Except, Henry Magoon, Magoune, Magoone, was brought here after the battle of Dunbar – Sept. 1650, on a separate ship from Alexander Gordon, Goden. He was already at the Iron Works when the shipment of Scots, arrived on the John and Sarah, after the Battle of Worchester – Sept. 1651.
My ancestor, Col Ninian Beall was captured by Cromwell at the Battle of Dunbar, Scotland in 1650 at age 24. all those captured were marched to London, many of the survivors were made indentured slaves and sent to Barbados. My ancestor was sent to Maryland in 1652 as an indentured slave to a planter. When his servitude completed, he was able to obtain land grants of which he had many with time, some in DC where the WH sits today, he also became a prominent figure in the history of MD. He was able to bring many scotsmen over from Scotland.
Stop lying to yourself by elevating your hardscrabble ancestors to slavery. There was never any white slaves in America. Lie to yourself. You just embarrassing.
you seem to have a vendetta and seem to think only Africans were the ONLY slaves. You need to pull the blinders off of your eyes. You only think the color of slaves was black not white skinned. I am a Historian, I am also of Scottish descent and YES, the Jacobite’s were sold as SLAVES, it does not matter that they were indentured they were slaves non the less. You need to go back and take an upper division history class in European History and understand what we at telling you is 100% true. White people were sold as slaves and those slaves children were slaves. Stop making a vendetta for ONLY black were slaves for they were not the only ones. You do not like that the truth is being spoken about. I have 20 books or more on the Scottish people sold as slaves. It is people like you who thinks that they have a vendetta and want to keep bitterness in their hearts. Bitterness breeds bitterness and then hatred. We have enough hatred in the world; too much if you ask me. It is time that we learn to start understanding that slavery happened to EVERYONE.
Read “They Were White and They Were Slaves by Michael Hoffman.”
where can I locate this publication?
Have you watched Alex Haley Roots? It is mentioned there. There were white slaves!!!
You wear your shame well. You are us spelled you’re. There ate plenty of pictures of white slaves. Naked and in chains as they had been in scotland and ireland. You are just ignorant. I hope you get over yourself some day
So beautifully put.
Amen- I have always wondered what Japanese and German History books say pertaining to the last 120 years. It’s all perspective and the ability to learn from the past instead of miring your self identity down with the past. We are all individuals with no responsibility towards making reparations for what our great-great-great-great-great grandparents may or may not have done. Who is to say that the ancestor of the next person wasn’t an integral player in helping slaves escape? Or maybe they were the “owners” who purchased those spaces to give them a better life than the next owner would have. It’s often overlooked that most slave holders treated theirs as family members and made sure they were well cared for, roof over their head and food- and many times kept families together. Yes there were bad owners and horrid stories but that’s true for any culture in any history.
I was only made aware of the many atrocities commited against both the Irish and Scottish peoples when I started my own geneological research (I’m mostly Scottish/Irish). I live in Canada, where the English empire perpetrated many attrocities and a physical and cultural genocide on the Native American people already here. I have seen how these actions have had consequences to this very day. Many Native people see all Europeans as “white” people who orchestrated all of their misery. What they do not realize, there is segments of the white population that experienced virtually the same types of oppression that they and African Amercian people have in the past. The English perfected their methods on the Scottish and Irish populations.
This may be a bad person to use as an example, but Idi Amin said that “The Scottish people are the least racist people he’s ever met.” He was a soldier in the English Imperial Army in Ughanda. His higher officers were English and his seargents were primarily Scots. He said, “An Englishman treats and African like a dog and a Scotsman will invite him to dinner.” These quotes are not exact, but that is the gist of what he said.
Read “Empire of the Summer Moon” the Indians on this continent were exceedingly wealthy for centuries but like any other nation of people they became corrupted so much so by the time white men arrived Indians were slaughtering each other. You will not find it hard to gain the evidence. Look up the massacre of Ft Mims….http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmamcrk4/pkt37.html James Pickett was the great great grandfather of a good friend of mine, and he goes extensively into the history of the indians of this continent, this is history they do not want published. He lived back in the early to mid 1800’s
Really? Well history differs from that statement, just research the KKK roots….
As a Canadian of Scottish descent I have long been aware there were many white slaves in America. My father’s father never spoke of how his ancestors got to North America but I do know they originated from the infamous slave port of Inverness. Also, my mother (who was English) told me many times that her grandfather was “black”. I saw a photo of him once but it was indistinct. Friends of African descent laugh at me since I am sooo white, lol.
Thanks for this site. It’s very encouraging to see this topic discussed instead of covered up as if it is a disgrace. Personally, I am proud to tell people that my ancestors were very likely slaves, some white and perhaps black as well.
Read kidnapped by Robert Loius Stephenson.
Rasta — ya cyant tell meh nuttin’!! Yes, the Irishman — and the original African — were brought to what would become the U.S. as indentured servants. However, I DO NOT RECALL WHITENESS AS BEING USED AS THE STANDARD FOR PURPETUAL ENSLAVEMENT.. I also, do not recall, white folks ever being sold by “rival ethnicities” into enslavement. I am an “African American” (for lack of a more appropriate term), of Native and Irish descent, who is familiar with Rasta culture and “Rasta-speak”. I am also a Southerner, raised in the region shortly after the “civil rights movement”. The Irish — employed as overseers/mid management by the Scottish land holders/slave owners in the South, might have been treated poorly, but were in a position where the bootstrap theory was still a possibility. That being the case, that population was very willing to take advantage of race based opportunities.. That being the case, they had no problem with accepting the notion that the enslavement of African people in the west was just the “natural order of things”. They never questioned the set up because it was to their advantage, much in the same way that Pan-African people from areas outside of the U.S. have no problem using/disrespecting the very people who were “sacrificed” (mind you, I didn’t say made the sacrifice, I said they were sacrificed) for the “rights” that third world pan-Afrikan peoples “enjoy” when they come to the U.S.
This article doesnt talk about the trade of European slaves in Africa that goes much further back into history. Arabian pirates would go up and raid the northern European coast and bring slaves back down to sell in Africa. Just an example of an outside ethnicity… Also, in victorian era art, Irish were depicted as monkeys. So propaganda today may just call them all “white people,” but to the people doing the enslaving back then, they were very much an outside ethnicity.
We get trapped in corners though, when we talk about race, or ethnicity, because they are artificial concepts; they aren’t real, and they don’t correspond to the nature or intentions of an individual. Those variables are mediated by culture, and are independant of race/ethnicity. Generalizing is foolish in general, because, of course, there were African slave owners in the New World as well.
It’s about cultural genocide. The European people suffered the genocide of their ancestral culture at the hands of the Beast just like the Africans and Australians and Asians and Native Americans suffered the genocide of their ancestral cultures at the hands of that same Beast. The Beast is not itself racist. The Beast uses racism as a tool to homogenize and divide. It will use racism so long as it is useful as a tool, and then discard it.
Our ancestral cultures were centered around the appreciation and respect of nature. They passed down intricately woven cosmic metaphors that taught self-realization through an intimate relationship with the archetypal forces of the universe. Sound familiar? Sounds like every ancestral culture on the planet.
The Beast destroyed these cultures and replaced them with religions that promote homogeny, fear, guilt, paranoia, and disconnection. They appropriated the symbols of the cultures they were subjugating, but changed all the meanings.
In ancient times when somebody would travel far away and meet someone who looks different than them, they would not think of them as different, because their culture is so similar: they love nature, they fish, hunt, dance, make tools and boats and art, they have psychedelic plants, just like my own people. Instead of fighting they would mate, and share ideas. The ancient peoples were much more mobile than propaganda history wants us to know.
And that’s why Jamaicans have such nice dreads, cuz they’re part European 😉
Us Native Americans was slaves too so Blacks are not the only slaves I read my history my people was taken from the Americas if us Native Americans was slaves and Blacks was slaves then the Whites was slaves too think before saying Blacks was the only slaves because there was both white and black slaves in The Romen Empire.